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this hope radios for the masses as my

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anniversary of July 8 1947 the Army Air

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Forces has announced that a flying has

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been found and is now in the possession

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of the RA the game's big change begins

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gage I occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network

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your health into the year 1985

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you a nickname just a flag with Jimmy

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Judge orlag a change in that love

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all right welcome fade to black

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the spoke radio for the masses hi units

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Thursday April 27th 116 days into the

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new year just 249 days left we are live

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welcome everybody listening all around

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody it is Thursday we've

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got a special presentation tonight yes

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it's it's Thursday it's fate or night

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Rappoport here with the zoom or fake

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gear I'll look at Salcha look at that

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there you go Sal looking good brother

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look at that that hat was made for you

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that net almost looks photoshopped that

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so good I don't usually wear a hat but

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deserts coming up may 19th through the

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good people over at contact in the

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desert today they are very excited

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gearing up for you know what is the

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biggest event of the year and for

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ufology and I'm just so happy now River

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moon coffee is going to be there they've

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got a full-on foam installation that's

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going on and their location is killer we

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are in the same spot that we were last

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year the fade to black booth which is

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the entrance of the sanctuary so that's

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where we'll be we occupy that corner and

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okay very excited about this we have

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p.m. okay so we've got a full weekend

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very excited coming up it's it's in a

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also coming up we will get everything up

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on the website this weekend but July 4th

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weekend we're going up to II said II

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that's right we're heading up to Oregon

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we're going to e steady ranch james

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gilliland and company i'll be speaking a

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couple of times that weekend which is

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going to be great it's going to be fun

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looking forward to it but more

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importantly is the evenings that we are

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going to be spending up there so go to

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the e sette website

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I think it's ECT or go to e city and

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check out the information that is there

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days all right so really quick I want to

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say happy birthday to Ace Frehley he is

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66 years old today and on this day in

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history in 1440 977 BC the universe is

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created according to johann Kepler and

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here's a quick fader fact hamsters can

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store half of their own weight in food

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kind of like me now all day today the

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breaking news happened about four hours

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ago maybe five maybe a little more than

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that but it's been fluid all day

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award-winning journalist Barrett Brown

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was re-arrested and taken into custody

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today tomorrow he was scheduled to be

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interviewed for a PBS documentary now I

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immediately today first thing as this

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new started to break I reached out to

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Greg house and I needed Greg to verify

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things which he immediately did at that

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point he was actually doing he was in

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they were talking about Barrett and yes

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Greg confirmed everything it's a sad day

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but on the phone with me right now is

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the one and only Greg house and Greg

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welcome back to the program absolutely

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thanks for having me meant yeah Greg sad

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day man now when you got the news I was

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watching your Twitter feed and my heart

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sank I mean I just couldn't believe I'm

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in shock now I know that you've got more

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information about what's going on it has

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been fluid today but just let me say

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don't don't mess around with your answer

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is this the feds screwing with a

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journalist about free speech absolutely

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yes it is how does that make you feel I

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mean after everything that you've gone

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through all of us are trying to fight

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the good fight Barrett of it look

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Barrett an aggressive guy a funny guy

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but never held back but a brilliant

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journalist a brilliant writer one of the

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most published and read writers in this

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country and certainly with our

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generation he was admired and looked up

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to but he has been slapped around this

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is a journalist being arrested there's

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something needs to be done the one thing

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that you always have to remember about

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this prosecution is that their entire

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Brown rested on him sharing a link to

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data that was hacked out of the company

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Stratfor right and the worst part about

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them putting him in prison for sharing

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this link just a hyperlink to a website

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was that this link had already been

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shared by multiple other journalists and

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multiple other articles and in fact it

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was actually linked to from the CNN

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article before he shared it with someone

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and then they went after him just

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because it was him and they found a way

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to get him and threatened him with a

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hundred years just to get him to plead

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out 105 years worth of charges is what

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they were getting him with and here's

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something your your users should find

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Gary the actual argument they made in

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court was that because he linked to this

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data again the same data that many other

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journalists had linked to because they

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were going through it to write stories

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which they are legally allowed to do we

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have a First Amendment amendment but the

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thing that they said in court was that

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because he linked to it that amounted to

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possession and because this file at the

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other end of that link that everyone

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else is sharing had the entire Stratfor

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database which included credit cards

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that amounted to barrett Bown having

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millions of stolen credit cards on his

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computer because he linked to a file

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somewhere that might have had those in

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them which of course we all know means

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he didn't have them on his computer he

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hadn't even seen them yet and he did not

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do the hack but they used that em was

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they were successful with that argument

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in court against him and they officially

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at this point okay what what's the

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latest and I want to thank you I know

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that you've done your show today if

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you've got an early start tomorrow thank

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you for coming on you're not so share

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this with a with our audience but what

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is the latest have the feds actually

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announced officially why they arrested

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him we have no official answer as to why

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they arrested him yet his lawyer J

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Lederman is waiting on for

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we'll notice the the word from the

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Bureau of Prisons over the phone earlier

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today where they wouldn't give anything

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on the record and they would not give

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any actual formal you know reading of

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any law he might have broken or anything

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else was that he was supposed to ask

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permission before doing any interviews

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and that that was a violation of his

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parole and that they were taking him

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back and he was no longer on parole and

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what's interesting about that is for

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weeks he had been asking them to prove

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it to give him any information any

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paperwork anything official that said he

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actually legally had to ask permission

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for this and they could produce nothing

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because it's not true right but because

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of the way the probation or the parole

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system works in our country they can

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just say the word violation and

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instantly they own you and there's

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nothing you can do about it now he's and

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that's what they did here yeah and he's

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been out there publicly doing interviews

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and and and why didn't they just come

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and grab him the first time I mean he's

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a very public figure and you know

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they're watching his every step and his

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email and his cell phones and everything

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else every movie makes they're watching

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and I'll tell you you know what what's

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interesting about the timing is he's

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been doing a lot of interviews and it's

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not for nobodies I mean the intercept

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and you know an MSNBC interview and you

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know all these others that they doesn't

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eat but now he's been out for months

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right and he went straight to work at D

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magazine I mean he went right back into

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journalism and they did nothing to him

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they didn't approach him but the last

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two days he spent working as an

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interview subject for a vice show of a

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very very well done set of interviews as

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I understand it and tomorrow he was

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supposed to be recording and for a

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documentary that PBS is doing and they

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got him before he could record this

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documentary and I think that's

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specifically what they wanted to stop

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because he was going to talk very

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harshly and very honestly about the

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Bureau of Prisons

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and this is the thing you know it's a

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journalist that has been out there it's

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writing and speaking about free speech

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it boggles the mind it's like they're

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messing with the wrong guy and Barrett

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Brown of anybody that I know is not ever

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going to shut up oh no there's no

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backing down in there you know we had

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this conversation a few years ago you

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know actually many years ago now long

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before his arrest or anything where I

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said look you're going at these people

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in a way where they're gonna have no

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choice but to use their power against

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you they're going to arrest you you're

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going to end up in prison and he just

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looked me dead in the eyes and said yeah

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probably yeah then there's no care in

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the world he just knew that he wasn't

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going to stop coming at them that they

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had no right to treat people the way

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that they were treating him and everyone

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else and there even with this there's

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going to be no slow down

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now also today nobody knew his location

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and I was trying to chase that down

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right before the show tonight I guess

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you found out where he's at where is he

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uh he's at UH at the same ethem he came

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out of if you go to the free Barrett

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Brown Twitter feed you'll see a direct

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link to a location finder that shows you

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everything you'll also see a few tweets

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that have an inmate number right there

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on the account right near the top right

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now so you can kind of find out

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everything you'll also see a tweet there

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by Eric that has the phone number and

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the name of the person you should call

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to yell about this I think I'm going to

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do that after the show tonight I should

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do it live a little live Gregg thank you

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so much and but this is what I don't

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want this to turn into some crazy parole

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violation where he goes away for another

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year you know two years over something

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like this I hope that the the the

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federal government realizes that he's

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got a lot of supporters out there

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everybody knows about this that this is

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just completely wrong and absurd and and

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he's back on the streets tomorrow that's

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that's what I'm hoping for and and I've

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got to get him on fade to black I will

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not

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never have and you know what kind of

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supporter I've been over the years for

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for Barrett and this just it I'm just

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outraged outraged as you should be and

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that should all of your listeners thank

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you so much Greg again thank you for

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coming on and we'll talk over the next

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couple of days thank you so much my

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friend

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definitely ever touch of it you too

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thank you Greg

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Greg house everybody and I have to say

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Barrett has got supporters around him

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and as quickly as this hit the press

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today and of course Greg was on his show

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today speaking about this I am on this

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show tonight speaking about this they

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will find out what kind of supporters

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Barrett has around him this is something

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that this is a journalist this is a

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journalist that should have never gone

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to prison in the first place they just

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didn't like it is the way that he spoke

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they didn't like the way that he was

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representing anonymous they didn't like

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his attitude they didn't like his being

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you know he so yeah he liked to do drugs

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and write his writing was so compelling

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and so above the norm in its quality and

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what it was about

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they just didn't dig it and this this is

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supposed to be the United States of

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America with freedom of the press and

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journalists are awarded certain freedoms

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because of what they are out there doing

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and I'm just happy I am just outraged

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about this now so free Barrett Brown the

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Twitter account you just heard that from

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Greg the phone numbers are posted there

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do it do it man just outraged outraged

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unbelievable okay now on top of that see

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this is the thing just last week he was

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interviewed by Vice you know they are

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monitoring his every step his every move

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you know and his lawyer also said that

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he this is this is where it gets

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outrageous his lawyer Jay Lederman said

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that he hadn't been presented with a

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normal justification for the arrests

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right and was just told that while he

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was failing to abide by the Bureau of

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Prisons restrictions on interviews

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nothing formal I don't even know if he's

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in communication with his attorney how

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is this possible

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apparently they gave him one phone call

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because he spoke to his mom but it did -

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to not announce where he is and where he

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is being taken - and everything else and

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not telling his lawyer where he's at and

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not telling his mother where he's at

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this is the United States man outrage is

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just not the right word it's a family

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show otherwise I'd be using the real

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words I was using before this program

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tonight you got to love Washington DC

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seriously and with that the White House

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launched a new hotline yesterday for

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people to report crimes committed by

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criminal aliens but some of the caller's

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instead are using the line to report

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cases of extraterrestrial contact and

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UFO sightings now the administration set

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up the victims of immigration crime

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engagement otherwise known as the voice

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office yesterday in accordance with

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president Trump's executive order this

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past January the office listen to this

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is folded inside of the ice office's

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement that

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should scare the crap out of you right

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there and it aims to and I'm quoting

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here from their website assist in

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victims of crimes committed by criminal

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aliens write alien is a term used by the

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federal government to describe

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individuals who are not American

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citizens but reside on US soil Homeland

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Security Secretary John Kelly said

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listen to me and I'm quoting here all

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crime is terrible but these victims are

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unique and too often ignored there are

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casualties of crimes that should never

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have taken place because the people who

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are victimized often

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I should not have been in the country in

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the first place end quote

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now maybe he should have said on this

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planet instead of in this country

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because despite the lines intended

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purpose callers have been reporting a

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range of abnormal activity callers have

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been mentioned things like spotting

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muggle-borns right you know that term

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from Harry Potter referring to magical

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characters with non magical parents now

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check this out Alexander McCoy a Marine

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Corps veteran said he called the hotline

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yesterday afternoon to report that he

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had been abducted by a UFO he said that

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he was on hold for about 20 minutes

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before speaking with someone who asked

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him and I'm quoting here if he was

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calling to report a crime committed by

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an illegal alien how offensive his hat

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and here's the conversation McCoy says I

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said yes they asked if I had reported

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the crime to law enforcement I said yes

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they asked me who the victim was I said

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me they said that they needed to collect

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my information and an engagement officer

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would follow up with me about my story

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and they asked me for my name my address

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phone number and I gave them fake

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information when asked what the crime

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was

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McCoy said the operator didn't really

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get the joke because his answer was I

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said I had been abducted by a UFO

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he said there was a long pause and then

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he said he heard them do a big sigh and

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they closed out the conversation saying

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that they'd make a note of it and that I

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should wait for the DHS to investigate

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my report and they hung up on him and he

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said I plan to call back again tomorrow

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which is today McCoy a member of the

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activist group common defense now this

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is the thing

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before I get to that it's very offensive

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with the words and the terminology that

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the white house is using for voice it's

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very offensive to a lot of different

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people and for this to happen like this

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I don't want to make that the UFO

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community we're making jokes and I'm

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reading this and and people find it

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offensive and they're gonna go Jimmy how

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can you make jokes about this man how

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you know people calling up and reporting

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abductions on this hotline you know

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that's not funny ufology is is serious

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and you're making jokes of this and

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people doing that calling up on that

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line that's not funny man

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you know they need to take us serious

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that's not the point that's not why

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McCoy called the line he's a member of

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the activist group common defense he

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said that he came up with the idea to

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troll voice because he noticed that

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hashtag alien day was trending on

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Twitter that was yesterday and he

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thought it might be a catchy way to

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fight back against the Trump

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administration use of bigoted language

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and racist stereotypes of criminality

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now that was the intention and you know

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what I agree 100% agree I saw a bunch of

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other different messages and things that

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were left on the voice hotline and and

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speaking to people and people are

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offended by it people are completely

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offended in the words of it now let's

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take it one step further this is a

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snitch line this is for anybody that

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doesn't like their neighbor doesn't like

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the people across the street or across

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the hall or living next door so they can

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call this hotline and start reporting on

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people and you know what we are better

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than that that kind of stuff went down

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and we got rid of decades ago this is

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not the world that we live in today

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I am completely offended by the voice

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hotline and I'm completely offended not

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only with the with the with the term

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alien but the way that they presented it

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they are literally asking us to narc on

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they could send out what is send out an

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agent oh man I'm completely offended

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completely fan what a weird day today

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Barrett Brown and the voice hotline in

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the same day what is going on what is

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going on

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we need to chill out this country we

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need to seriously we need to seriously

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listen to me we need to seriously pump

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the brakes we got to really slow things

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down and take a look around and see

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where we are going but we're going in

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the wrong direction completely we're off

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the rails completely in the wrong

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direction and with that believe it or

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not you know what's coming up next the

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one and only John Rappaport and is no

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more fake newsroom so get ready for that

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we're going to get another dose on it

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Jon Rappoport this is fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy church and the

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GameChanger Network and Katie are a the

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planet so we've got Jon Rappoport

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right after that Steven Huff Huff

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paranormal communicating with the other

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side with his wonder box it's a great

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fader night dead ahead stay with us I'll

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Church radio calm what's up what open a

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Church radio and now coming to you from

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the no more fake newsroom in deep space

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which is the space that we suspect to be

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through that the world as it has been to

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us every day by the Ministry of Truth is

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a lie of false reality a movie projected

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on the screen of our subconscious this

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however is the breakout all the screens

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crash they all go down and we see the

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more fake newsroom with Jon Rappoport

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take it away John Thank You Jenny it's

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been a very busy news week stories

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flying everywhere

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crisis here crisis there etc etc and in

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the process a couple of gigantic medical

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stories have flown under the radar as

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usual and so I want to nail those down

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for you number one blood thinning drug

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Xarelto faces 18,000 lawsuits

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that's 18,000 this is a drug developed

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and sold by Bayer and Johnson and

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Johnson and the first test case is

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coming up in New Orleans this week or

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next week and that case will influence

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how the 18,000 lawsuits sitting behind

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it will be handled these are lawsuits

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the representing patients who've taken

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the drug against these drug companies so

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the plaintiff in the first suit is

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Joseph Boudreaux and I want to read a

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quote from the oh boy can't scroll down

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here what's going on okay Chicago

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Tribune

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while xarelto was supposed to help cut a

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stroke risk Boudreaux says it instead

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caused internal bleeding that's the main

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complaint in all of these lawsuits that

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required a week-long hospital stay and

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the ICU several blood transfusions and

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multiple heart procedures Wow so one of

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the lawyers for Bayer and Johnson

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Johnson going to argue in trying to win

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this case and hopefully deflect all the

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other cases mainly they're going to say

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that you can't blame us because the FDA

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approved the drug as being safe and

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effective they will claim a few other

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things but that's going to be the main

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track of their argument okay

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it's called shifting responsibility and

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I want to focus on that because what I'm

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going to give you here is a viewpoint

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that you

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you just don't get okay now yes the FDA

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is the single agency tasked with

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approving a drug is safe and effective

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before it can be released to the public

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but I'm quoting from my article here the

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last time I looked at B doesn't develop

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manufacture and sell drugs

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pharmaceutical companies to if their

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drugs kill people and name them why

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shouldn't they shoulder the blame

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regardless of what a government agency

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says a simple change in the law would

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remedy this situation irrespective of

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what the FDA claims or doesn't claim

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ultimate accountability for drugs

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effects lies with the company that

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created it and then I offer this analogy

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if you own a business that makes a

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product in eighteen thousand people are

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lined up to sue you because they claim

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the product seriously harmed them you're

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the one who is going to have to go to

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court try to defend your actions you're

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not going to be able to claim it was

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your second cousins fault or the man and

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the moons responsibility so even if we

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assume the FDA is honest and thorough

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and honorable all laughable they're

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simply offering their assessment it

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doesn't matter that they're the only

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body that can certify a drug for public

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use that's not a reason to exonerate a

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00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:35,500
drug company drug companies try to make

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hay from the fact that the FDA is

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00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:39,910
certifying their medicines the companies

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00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:42,130
are saying don't blame us yet the FDA

738
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liked our drug blame them and good luck

739
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:50,350
with that alright another analogy this

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00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:52,330
would be like a mother saying yeah I was

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in the park with my child and I wandered

742
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a way to talk to an ice-cream vendor and

743
00:36:01,290 --> 00:35:58,840
I came back a half-hour later to find

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her with a broken leg on the ground but

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00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:03,100
you see it was my husband's fault

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because he decided I would be competent

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to take care of our children

748
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:13,810
same idea drug companies well the FDA

749
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:16,420
said it was okay to market the drug

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therefore we're off the hook right why

751
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:25,900
people can't get this I don't I don't

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00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:28,510
know I know why the government doesn't

753
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:30,250
want to get this and I know why the drug

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:33,070
companies don't want to get this the

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drug companies actually like the fact

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that the FDA has to approve all their

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drugs because they can do exactly what

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they're doing here

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when 18,000 people line up to sue them

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because they all suffered from internal

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bleeding and who knows how many of those

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cases the people almost died or maybe

763
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:03,670
some did die I don't know the drug

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00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:08,260
company can say look it's the FDA they

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approved the drug they said it was safe

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and effective and that ended our

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responsibility that's what this is all

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00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:21,640
about the concept of responsibility in

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our culture where everybody can blame

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everybody else for what's happening you

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00:37:31,860 --> 00:37:28,810
see but never take any responsibility

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00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:31,870
themselves and in case you haven't

773
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:35,230
noticed that notion has spread like a

774
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forest fire throughout the culture in

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the country and the world in the last

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let's say 10 years where it's now

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fashionable and fashionable to find

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:54,400
somebody else to accuse for the problems

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that you're supposed to solve and I know

780
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:01,090
this is not a very popular view it's

781
00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:04,360
much more popular to say well there's

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nothing you can do about anything

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because of you know forces beyond your

784
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control are in charge and it's all their

785
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fault that's the same argument it's just

786
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:21,150
the other side of the coin well yeah we

787
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created this drug we developed it we

788
00:38:27,289 --> 00:38:25,500
tested it we did clinical trials and

789
00:38:28,849 --> 00:38:27,299
then we submitted that to the FDA and

790
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they said the drug was a bit effective

791
00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:33,230
so now what do you want from us

792
00:38:41,779 --> 00:38:37,559
we have discharged our entire

793
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:41,789
responsibility no you haven't you made

794
00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:49,200
the drug you created the drug you're the

795
00:38:58,309 --> 00:38:55,980
author of the drug so if you want to

796
00:39:02,059 --> 00:38:58,319
leave the FDA in place fine they do

797
00:39:04,279 --> 00:39:02,069
their certification but when the drug

798
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:04,289
starts killing people and naming them

799
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:07,670
badly you have to go back to the author

800
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the creator of the drug you just can't

801
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:17,970
keep passing the buck and saying well

802
00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:20,190
they said it was okay and they said it

803
00:39:32,029 --> 00:39:23,720
was okay and that's all that's all folks

804
00:39:36,859 --> 00:39:32,039
know we need to change that that has to

805
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:36,869
be changed so we'll see what happens in

806
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:39,990
these lawsuits there is a chance that

807
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:44,130
the judge or the jury is going to be

808
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:48,720
convinced by the lawyers for the drug

809
00:40:01,819 --> 00:39:55,609
companies that yes the FDA is the sole

810
00:40:03,319 --> 00:40:01,829
responsible party and therefore the drug

811
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:03,329
companies don't have to pay out any

812
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:07,980
money at all now I'm not saying that the

813
00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:12,240
FDA is off the hook either because in

814
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fact they did say the drug was safe and

815
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effective and obviously it's not but

816
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:21,720
just because of that doesn't mean that

817
00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:24,420
all of a sudden you can say the drug

818
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,320
company has no responsibility okay

819
00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:30,320
I've made my point there it's

820
00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:33,020
infuriating to me to say the least I'm

821
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:39,350
sure you can detect it in my voice we go

822
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:44,570
around in this society of ours and time

823
00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:49,130
and time again we hear it's somebody

824
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,280
else who did it somebody else's fault

825
00:40:57,970 --> 00:40:55,040
now I'm a journalist talking to you with

826
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:57,980
over 30 years of experience I know how

827
00:41:03,100 --> 00:40:58,850
to assign blame

828
00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:03,110
believe me I've investigated countless

829
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:06,380
numbers of stories and drill down far

830
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:09,130
enough to find the guilty party and

831
00:41:15,310 --> 00:41:12,770
expose that guilty party I have done

832
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:15,320
that I could I couldn't even count the

833
00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:21,650
number of times so it's not so it's not

834
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:25,700
that I'm not aware of this but I also

835
00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:29,690
understand the other side and the other

836
00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:35,480
side is a person a corporation a group

837
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:46,900
avoiding the need to solve their own

838
00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:47,810
problems

839
00:41:54,310 --> 00:41:50,990
by blaming somebody else for those

840
00:41:56,650 --> 00:41:54,320
problems they're never going to be free

841
00:41:58,300 --> 00:41:56,660
they're never going to be independent

842
00:42:00,190 --> 00:41:58,310
they're never going to be powerful

843
00:42:02,290 --> 00:42:00,200
they're never going to be creative

844
00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:02,300
they're never going to be anything but

845
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:07,880
parasites Story number two headline how

846
00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:09,620
would you feel if your doctor were

847
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:13,700
bribed to give you a drug just posted

848
00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:17,710
this tonight hello Novartis

849
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:20,780
the Swiss pharmaceutical giant has just

850
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:23,390
been fined 50 million dollars by the

851
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:25,310
government of South Korea for bribing

852
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:30,370
doctors to prescribe the company's drugs

853
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:39,510
50 million dollar fine but in South

854
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:43,090
Korea there's also going to be a

855
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:44,560
criminal trial you don't see that

856
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:48,250
happening in the United States indicted

857
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,190
half-a-dozen of artists executives as

858
00:42:58,170 --> 00:42:53,520
well as more than a dozen doctors and

859
00:42:59,790 --> 00:42:58,180
five Medical Journal heads I don't know

860
00:43:03,920 --> 00:42:59,800
what that last part is about but I'm

861
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:08,730
so this criminal trial opening up now

862
00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:11,890
underway in Korea South Korea and also

863
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:15,340
50 million dollar fine for bribing

864
00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:23,880
is this the way medicine is supposed to

865
00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:27,820
be practiced now a Novartis spokesman

866
00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:32,740
called the crime quote in violation of

867
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:35,740
our policies and inconsistent with our

868
00:43:42,380 --> 00:43:38,380
culture meaning the culture of the drug

869
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:42,390
company and I write really there's more

870
00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:45,910
and I'm quoting now from a piece at a

871
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:49,840
website called fierce Pharma outside of

872
00:43:54,570 --> 00:43:53,290
Korea Novartis faces similar bribery

873
00:43:56,820 --> 00:43:54,580
claims in Greece

874
00:43:59,550 --> 00:43:56,830
where an official earlier this month

875
00:44:02,820 --> 00:43:59,560
said thousands of people could be

876
00:44:05,490 --> 00:44:02,830
implicated the company faced other

877
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:05,500
allegations in Turkey which had now

878
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:09,430
considers quote unsubstantiated and pay

879
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:12,970
25 million Novartis said to the US

880
00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:15,310
authorities last year to settle a

881
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:20,500
bribery investigation in China so sounds

882
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:23,440
like bribery might be central to the

883
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:28,750
culture of Novartis after all see China

884
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:39,160
Greece Italy and South Korea okay so

885
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:42,760
what I'm asking here is do law

886
00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:44,530
enforcement officials in these countries

887
00:44:51,059 --> 00:44:47,620
release the names of the bribe doctors

888
00:44:54,779 --> 00:44:51,069
and inform their patients

889
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:54,789
of these crimes not to my knowledge

890
00:45:00,359 --> 00:44:58,930
why not the patients ought to know and

891
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:00,369
then they ought to be able to sue the

892
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,930
drunk company for bribing the doctors

893
00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:06,640
and they ought to be able to sue the

894
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:09,940
doctors sue both carry responsibility

895
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:16,569
for the bribery now let's take the whole

896
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:20,680
business out a little bit wider here do

897
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:22,930
you think doctors who take money from

898
00:45:28,049 --> 00:45:25,630
drug companies for example for speaking

899
00:45:31,469 --> 00:45:28,059
fees and consulting and who knows what

900
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:31,479
else might be prone to altering their

901
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:35,920
prescription habits well I personally do

902
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:40,329
sure you know and so consider this

903
00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:47,130
nugget from NPR dated March 17 19 2016

904
00:45:53,969 --> 00:45:50,799
nationwide in the u.s. nearly nine and

905
00:45:55,739 --> 00:45:53,979
ten cardiologists who wrote at least a

906
00:45:58,589 --> 00:45:55,749
thousand prescriptions for Medicare

907
00:46:02,789 --> 00:45:58,599
patients received payments from a drug

908
00:46:05,339 --> 00:46:02,799
or device company in 2014 while seven

909
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:05,349
and ten internists and family

910
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:10,390
practitioners do nine out of ten

911
00:46:17,579 --> 00:46:14,079
cardiologists took money from drug

912
00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:17,589
companies you think that might influence

913
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,660
the way they practice medicine and what

914
00:46:25,229 --> 00:46:21,839
the the drugs that they prescribe I

915
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:25,239
think it's certainly good then there is

916
00:46:32,489 --> 00:46:29,160
this bombshell from Business Insider

917
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:32,499
quote companies pay doctors millions of

918
00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:34,690
dollars to promote not their most

919
00:46:39,749 --> 00:46:36,849
innovative or effective drugs but some

920
00:46:42,479 --> 00:46:39,759
of their most unremarkable and I'm not

921
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:42,489
going to read the whole quote but in the

922
00:46:47,609 --> 00:46:45,249
last five months of 2013 drug makers

923
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:47,619
spent almost twenty million dollars

924
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:49,150
trying to convince physicians and

925
00:46:55,439 --> 00:46:52,209
teaching hospitals to give their freshly

926
00:47:01,499 --> 00:46:55,449
patented drugs to patients blah blah

927
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:01,509
blah and Business Insider indicates that

928
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:03,390
some of these drugs

929
00:47:09,830 --> 00:47:06,810
that are being pushed by the drug

930
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,840
companies to these doctors who are

931
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:12,000
paying the drug companies are

932
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:13,770
essentially paying money to get the

933
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:16,290
doctors to prescribe their drugs some of

934
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:21,450
these have serious side effects Wow

935
00:47:27,110 --> 00:47:22,710
how would you like to be one of those

936
00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:27,120
patients drug company Brides the doctor

937
00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:29,700
you go to the office doctor gives you a

938
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:32,820
diagnosis gives you a drug because he

939
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:36,240
was bribed and that drug has serious

940
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:39,770
side effects serious side effects

941
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:42,420
whereas if the doctor hadn't been bribed

942
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:45,890
he wouldn't have prescribed that drug

943
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:50,790
Wow okay now we get into the real

944
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,700
numbers here this is an interesting

945
00:48:02,450 --> 00:47:55,920
website called medical billing and

946
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:02,460
coding dot org 2011 article and their

947
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:06,240
analysis is now we're talking about drug

948
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:10,290
companies paying money to doctors we

949
00:48:18,370 --> 00:48:14,910
don't know in this case why or for what

950
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:18,380
supposedly thens speaking fees

951
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,830
consulting this that who knows right but

952
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:25,200
it's money and it's paid to doctors by

953
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:30,530
drug companies which to me indicates a

954
00:48:35,570 --> 00:48:33,450
conflict of interest right there or

955
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:35,580
let's call it a potential conflict of

956
00:48:44,330 --> 00:48:40,010
interest right there all right between

957
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:44,340
2009 and 2011 these drug companies paid

958
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:47,490
doctors the following amounts that's two

959
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,690
years worth Merck nine point four

960
00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:54,480
million Johnson and Johnson ten point

961
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:57,480
six million Pfizer nineteen point eight

962
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:00,420
million AstraZeneca twenty two point

963
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:03,690
eight million GlaxoSmithKline ninety six

964
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:06,120
point four million and the winner

965
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:09,540
Eli Lilly a hundred and forty four point

966
00:49:16,799 --> 00:49:12,170
1 million

967
00:49:21,069 --> 00:49:16,809
that's just between 2009-2011

968
00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:21,079
and I right does this cast an ominous

969
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:23,180
cloud over the companies and their

970
00:49:32,849 --> 00:49:29,950
favorite doctors you bet you bet now

971
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:32,859
this website medical billing and coding

972
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,049
goes on to publish the fines that have

973
00:49:44,370 --> 00:49:40,880
been levied against drug companies we're

974
00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:44,380
now talking about the years 2007 to 2010

975
00:49:51,789 --> 00:49:48,470
for engaging in illegal activities with

976
00:49:55,710 --> 00:49:51,799
doctors could be you know that's the

977
00:49:58,809 --> 00:49:55,720
broadest brush that we can use there and

978
00:50:00,789 --> 00:49:58,819
then I say the fines of course are drop

979
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:00,799
in the bucket considering the profits of

980
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:04,220
these corporations but anyway these are

981
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:07,910
the fines for drug companies who engage

982
00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:11,650
in illegal activities with doctors

983
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:15,740
obviously meant to influence these

984
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:19,280
doctors okay here are the fines Forest

985
00:50:24,750 --> 00:50:22,329
Laboratories 313 million dollars

986
00:50:27,549 --> 00:50:24,760
allergen six hundred million dollars

987
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:27,559
Astra Zeneca five hundred twenty million

988
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:31,040
dollars settle on four hundred twenty

989
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:34,880
five million dollars and Pfizer 2.3

990
00:50:43,569 --> 00:50:41,839
billion dollars paying a fine is having

991
00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:43,579
to say you're sorry and then you walk

992
00:50:50,770 --> 00:50:48,470
away the next time you speak with a

993
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:50,780
doctor you might apprise him of all

994
00:51:04,410 --> 00:50:54,290
these matters you know just to liven the

995
00:51:07,870 --> 00:51:04,420
conversation and that's that piece now I

996
00:51:10,180 --> 00:51:07,880
don't know how many of you I have to

997
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:10,190
convince of how important these stories

998
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,119
are that's up you know up for grabs with

999
00:51:22,090 --> 00:51:20,000
all the stories out there grabbing for

1000
00:51:24,610 --> 00:51:22,100
your attention these days

1001
00:51:26,830 --> 00:51:24,620
stories like this 10 - okay yeah well we

1002
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:26,840
know there's problems are kind of

1003
00:51:35,530 --> 00:51:33,170
pressured aside but this involves untold

1004
00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:35,540
numbers of people who go into doctors

1005
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:37,460
offices as patients and have no idea

1006
00:51:47,470 --> 00:51:42,850
what's happening how many doctors are

1007
00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:47,480
influenced by drug companies to the

1008
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:52,790
point where the doctor whatever you

1009
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:55,310
think of him and whatever you think of

1010
00:52:00,310 --> 00:51:58,000
the way that he practices medicine is

1011
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,320
going and even if you have a negative

1012
00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:03,200
opinion of that he's going to do even a

1013
00:52:12,820 --> 00:52:05,480
worse job because he's under the

1014
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:12,830
influence he sold out he is now covertly

1015
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:15,110
and secretly working on behalf of drug

1016
00:52:20,380 --> 00:52:17,930
companies especially when it comes to

1017
00:52:25,660 --> 00:52:20,390
the drugs that he will prescribe to

1018
00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:25,670
patients and who knows even the

1019
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:29,150
diagnosis when you know it's on a fine

1020
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,950
edge for that doctor well I could

1021
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:32,720
diagnose this or I could diagnose that

1022
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:35,810
it's kind of a blur but if I diagnose

1023
00:52:40,990 --> 00:52:38,930
this then I can prescribe that drug made

1024
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:41,000
by that company and that company is

1025
00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:47,930
paying me money hmm yeah talk about an

1026
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:51,550
infection this is a serious infection

1027
00:52:56,770 --> 00:52:54,530
this is an effete infection at every

1028
00:53:00,990 --> 00:52:56,780
level and again the question of

1029
00:53:06,670 --> 00:53:01,000
responsibility comes up because look in

1030
00:53:11,170 --> 00:53:06,680
America at least the theme is the drug

1031
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:11,180
companies pay serious money but to them

1032
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:14,480
and fines when they're caught but to

1033
00:53:17,410 --> 00:53:15,970
them it's just walking around money

1034
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:17,420
chump change

1035
00:53:24,580 --> 00:53:21,650
in fact these companies often have slush

1036
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,590
funds in which they just deposit monies

1037
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:26,240
because

1038
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:28,490
they anticipate that something like this

1039
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:30,200
is going to happen where they get caught

1040
00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:31,790
and they're going to have to pay out a

1041
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:34,700
big fine but there are no criminal

1042
00:53:40,359 --> 00:53:37,280
trials and nobody goes to prison

1043
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:40,369
in fact normally the way the Justice

1044
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:44,000
Department operates is the companies pay

1045
00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:46,390
a fine they release a statement

1046
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:49,160
apologizing and then they say that they

1047
00:53:53,950 --> 00:53:52,480
will change their behavior in the future

1048
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:53,960
that's it

1049
00:54:00,490 --> 00:53:57,290
John let me jump in really quick I want

1050
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:00,500
to have some time here to to talk to you

1051
00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:04,010
there's one thing that really really

1052
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:06,580
avenge me and that all of these

1053
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:09,650
pharmaceutical companies have their

1054
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:13,300
sales rep out there on the routes

1055
00:54:21,310 --> 00:54:17,119
calling on doctors offices they all have

1056
00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:21,320
sales contests right they've got numbers

1057
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:23,990
they're paid Commission they have

1058
00:54:29,859 --> 00:54:27,260
numbers that they have to meet and they

1059
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:29,869
think it's all fun and games as a sales

1060
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:33,430
rep we're not talking about selling

1061
00:54:42,370 --> 00:54:37,040
realized yeah shower curtain rings right

1062
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,380
if this is a real situation and the

1063
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:45,200
competition is stiff and these sales

1064
00:54:51,370 --> 00:54:47,810
reps are going to these doctors offices

1065
00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:51,380
with lunches and gifts and bottles of

1066
00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:54,260
wine and everything else that they can

1067
00:55:00,520 --> 00:54:57,310
do to make buddy-buddy and make friends

1068
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,530
with that doctor because they're the

1069
00:55:04,180 --> 00:55:02,480
doctors best friend all those sales reps

1070
00:55:06,310 --> 00:55:04,190
are the same they've ever seen it alone

1071
00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:06,320
and it I mean it goes further than that

1072
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:08,150
first of all they've all got samples

1073
00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:10,609
drugs Sam that's right yeah and the

1074
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:14,920
second thing is one of the practices is

1075
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:18,560
the drug salesman who is not called the

1076
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:21,800
drug salesman actually stands with the

1077
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:25,520
doctor in the examining room with the

1078
00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:28,430
patient patient after patient after

1079
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:32,500
patient and records the prescribing

1080
00:55:38,030 --> 00:55:35,810
actions of the doctors and then reports

1081
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:38,040
back to the drug company

1082
00:55:44,780 --> 00:55:41,910
so it isn't just hi how you doing here's

1083
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:44,790
flowers candy and whatever some of these

1084
00:55:50,540 --> 00:55:48,240
guys get into the offices with the

1085
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:50,550
doctors and the script and it's

1086
00:55:55,730 --> 00:55:52,110
correcting that I'm reporting lair

1087
00:55:57,350 --> 00:55:55,740
tonight is an outgrowth of that daily

1088
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:57,360
practice that you're talking about

1089
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:00,720
except on top of all of this the drug

1090
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companies are paying these doctors

1091
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speaking fees and consulting fees and at

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least in some cases as I have read

1093
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:12,510
through some research here the doctors

1094
00:56:19,850 --> 00:56:15,990
don't even give the speeches there are

1095
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:19,860
no speeches but you're paid for that but

1096
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:21,330
you're paid for it I mean how many

1097
00:56:25,850 --> 00:56:23,850
vacations you know hey man if you

1098
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:25,860
prescribe this you know this this year

1099
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:27,570
we're going to do this at the end of

1100
00:56:34,030 --> 00:56:30,960
this quarter you know and and it's all a

1101
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:34,040
big game and like I said there's nothing

1102
00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:37,230
creepier than a pharmaceutical sales rep

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00:56:41,180 --> 00:56:39,150
you're sitting in the doctor's office

1104
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:41,190
you see them coming in like I said

1105
00:56:48,350 --> 00:56:45,180
wearing that Cologne the gold rings the

1106
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:48,360
nice briefcase all sharp I just just is

1107
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:49,380
creepy

1108
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:52,610
and they are paid Commission on on

1109
00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:55,980
prescription medication it should just

1110
00:57:02,180 --> 00:56:58,980
be it should be illegal it should not

1111
00:57:04,550 --> 00:57:02,190
occur but it does John you are the very

1112
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:04,560
best man and I know you're gonna you

1113
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:06,330
know sleep with one eye open tonight I

1114
00:57:08,330 --> 00:57:07,530
don't know maybe you're on the cool side

1115
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:08,340
of the pillow

1116
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:11,610
right along the cools John thank you so

1117
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:14,370
much man and again for everybody

1118
00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:17,490
no more fake news.com I was reading I

1119
00:57:21,110 --> 00:57:18,870
read something earlier this week that

1120
00:57:25,310 --> 00:57:21,120
said you've had that website name since

1121
00:57:27,590 --> 00:57:25,320
2001 right that's right yeah talking

1122
00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:27,600
about staying out in front of the story

1123
00:57:32,330 --> 00:57:30,150
right thank you so much John you think

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00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:32,340
Jenni you're the best my friend I have a

1125
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:35,160
great weekend you too all right Jon

1126
00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:37,050
Rappoport everybody no more fake

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news.com that's where you start off your

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day every day all right I'm going to get

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out of here I'm going to be right back

1130
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:45,910
with Steven Huff Huff paranormal

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00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:47,770
the wonder box and communication with

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00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:50,230
spirits and the other side this is fade

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00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,640
to black I'm Yours to me Church I'll be

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right back

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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Adrian Grenier this is our eagle where

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the honey brothers were they didn't

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we're out on the okay I'm Adrian Grenier

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and I'm our eagle where the honey

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brothers and you listen to Jimmy Church

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14 16 hours a day with no problem to

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where I could barely walk a block to the

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store I went on to the phytonutrients

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about six months ago and within a couple

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of months my medical doctor had cut my

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prescriptions down in a little bit

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smaller dosage the next time I went back

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the month later I walked into the

1185
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doctor's office he says my gosh what's

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happened to you you don't even look like

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the same person he looked at my legs and

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the swelling gone down my blood pressure

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was down the venous stasis ulcers that I

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had had on my legs for the last four or

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Jimmy church on fade to black across the

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and the one and only kgr a radio the

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[Music]

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01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:47,770
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,740
your host Jimmy Church very special

1209
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:52,720
broadcast tonight I want to thank Jon

1210
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,330
Rappoport for coming in that was an

1211
01:02:02,430 --> 01:01:57,760
eye-opener you know every Thursday night

1212
01:02:03,150 --> 01:02:02,440
with John his is an education right but

1213
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:03,160
tonight

1214
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:06,580
Wow and watching Twitter light up like

1215
01:02:13,170 --> 01:02:10,750
this it just warms my heart you guys get

1216
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:13,180
it right now it's about Steven Huff

1217
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,160
Steve Huff is a professional

1218
01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:17,200
photographer he's a blogger and spirit

1219
01:02:21,450 --> 01:02:19,270
communicator who has been speaking to

1220
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:21,460
the dead for many years his website at

1221
01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:24,690
Steve Huff photo calm receives 50 to

1222
01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:27,220
100,000 visits per day and his

1223
01:02:32,670 --> 01:02:29,580
paranormal YouTube channel is over

1224
01:02:34,770 --> 01:02:32,680
120,000 subscribers who watches spirit

1225
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:34,780
communication videos and I will say this

1226
01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:38,050
I have spent many a day with my coffee

1227
01:02:44,610 --> 01:02:42,340
and Steve and his coffee communicating

1228
01:02:46,310 --> 01:02:44,620
with the other side it is just it is

1229
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:46,320
such a compelling thing to go through

1230
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:49,330
Huff has created two software apps for

1231
01:02:53,550 --> 01:02:51,280
spirit communication along with our good

1232
01:02:57,060 --> 01:02:53,560
friend Anthony of Sanchez of the ghost

1233
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:57,070
hunter apps calm the sed one is one of

1234
01:03:00,660 --> 01:02:58,810
the most used pieces of software for

1235
01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:00,670
spirit communication and the new

1236
01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:02,980
impossible box is pushing the edge even

1237
01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:05,590
further Huff has teamed up with hope H

1238
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:08,560
ope paranormal in 2015 to create a

1239
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:10,510
feature documentary called finding the

1240
01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:13,690
light which was released in 2016 you can

1241
01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:16,060
see that on his youtube channel Huff

1242
01:03:19,530 --> 01:03:17,830
paranormal and I would like to welcome

1243
01:03:21,810 --> 01:03:19,540
for the first time to fade to black

1244
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:21,820
Steven Huff Steve good evening my friend

1245
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:25,020
how are you hey Jimmy I'm doing great

1246
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:30,010
and are you I am fantastic and I got to

1247
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,510
say it's good to hear your voice because

1248
01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:33,280
I've watched so many of your videos but

1249
01:03:38,610 --> 01:03:35,470
you know here we are but this is the

1250
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:38,620
cool thing it's you get the first-time

1251
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,310
guest

1252
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:41,440
disclaimer all right now the next time

1253
01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:42,730
you're on the show you're not going to

1254
01:03:47,250 --> 01:03:45,040
get it but tonight okay you get the

1255
01:03:48,810 --> 01:03:47,260
disclaimer and the disclaimer is this is

1256
01:03:51,210 --> 01:03:48,820
just you and I sitting on my couch

1257
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:51,220
having a conversation as friends where

1258
01:03:55,500 --> 01:03:53,290
we start we start where we end we end

1259
01:03:57,509 --> 01:03:55,510
but we're going to end his friends all

1260
01:04:02,370 --> 01:03:57,519
right you ready that's awesome yeah

1261
01:04:06,299 --> 01:04:02,380
I'm ready the pressure is on right I you

1262
01:04:09,149 --> 01:04:06,309
know the normal question right now with

1263
01:04:11,699 --> 01:04:09,159
with a guest like yourself is how did

1264
01:04:14,669 --> 01:04:11,709
you get started in this and and of

1265
01:04:18,299 --> 01:04:14,679
course we need to discuss that but I'm

1266
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:18,309
more interested in the music side of

1267
01:04:26,009 --> 01:04:20,529
this are you a musician are you a guitar

1268
01:04:28,139 --> 01:04:26,019
player I'm wanna be guitar player for

1269
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:28,149
about 20 years I've dabbled with it

1270
01:04:33,149 --> 01:04:31,569
taught himself taught you know I know

1271
01:04:34,979 --> 01:04:33,159
basics but I'm not any kind of

1272
01:04:36,659 --> 01:04:34,989
professional but I enjoy it it used to

1273
01:04:39,149 --> 01:04:36,669
be something I did to take the stress

1274
01:04:41,459 --> 01:04:39,159
away you know but yeah I do enjoy a

1275
01:04:43,979 --> 01:04:41,469
guitar yeah and the reason why I'm

1276
01:04:47,569 --> 01:04:43,989
asking is because when I first started

1277
01:04:52,439 --> 01:04:47,579
seeing your stuff a few years ago I

1278
01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:52,449
noticed the guitar side of it that I was

1279
01:04:56,759 --> 01:04:55,630
completely intrigued and I'm looking at

1280
01:04:59,309 --> 01:04:56,769
the gear and I'm like wait a minute

1281
01:05:03,479 --> 01:04:59,319
I know what I know where that is so

1282
01:05:06,749 --> 01:05:03,489
that's why I need to ask is was it an

1283
01:05:08,399 --> 01:05:06,759
accident did you were you you know you

1284
01:05:10,859 --> 01:05:08,409
had your gear together and something

1285
01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:10,869
just happened you know and if you have

1286
01:05:15,149 --> 01:05:12,329
one communication

1287
01:05:17,189 --> 01:05:15,159
yeah there's kind of a story behind it

1288
01:05:20,609 --> 01:05:17,199
I'll give it a really quick story of how

1289
01:05:22,019 --> 01:05:20,619
I got started it was basically all my

1290
01:05:23,549 --> 01:05:22,029
life I'd been interested in the

1291
01:05:25,319 --> 01:05:23,559
paranormal and ghosts and I always

1292
01:05:28,019 --> 01:05:25,329
wanted to believe in ghosts in life

1293
01:05:30,899 --> 01:05:28,029
after death and you know as a kid as

1294
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:30,909
early as 9 I used Ouija boards with

1295
01:05:35,189 --> 01:05:32,529
friends and you know we would do little

1296
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:35,199
seances in the basement as I grew older

1297
01:05:40,109 --> 01:05:37,569
in the my teen years I kind of gave up

1298
01:05:42,659 --> 01:05:40,119
on trying to you know have a ghost pop

1299
01:05:44,249 --> 01:05:42,669
up in my bedroom as I slept because to

1300
01:05:46,769 --> 01:05:44,259
me that was the only way I was going to

1301
01:05:49,739 --> 01:05:46,779
believe right so teen years ago by I go

1302
01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:49,749
into my 20s I get married and have a son

1303
01:05:56,279 --> 01:05:52,959
and as we just for fun one day we

1304
01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:56,289
decided to go to the Queen Mary and we

1305
01:05:59,549 --> 01:05:57,849
walked around the Queen Mary and I had a

1306
01:06:00,870 --> 01:05:59,559
little digital recorder and I'm like I

1307
01:06:03,929 --> 01:06:00,880
will record maybe we'll pick up

1308
01:06:05,819 --> 01:06:03,939
something and you know we played back

1309
01:06:08,999 --> 01:06:05,829
about ten minutes of recording and we

1310
01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:09,009
had about six or seven amazing full

1311
01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:11,350
volume EVPs and I was

1312
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,150
trying to explain them away the whole

1313
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:16,000
night because at that time I was you

1314
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,790
know still skeptical and I I couldn't

1315
01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:20,700
explain them so later on in life

1316
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:24,670
somebody emailed me a friend and they

1317
01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:26,650
said their mother-in-law thinks they

1318
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:29,590
have ghosts because she took a bunch of

1319
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:31,570
pictures that are filled with orbs so I

1320
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:34,690
said well you know in my experience 99%

1321
01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:36,310
of world pictures or nothing but dust

1322
01:06:40,650 --> 01:06:38,830
being reflected you know from the flash

1323
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:40,660
on your camera so if you use a flash

1324
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:42,880
chances are and you're kicking up dust

1325
01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:44,590
on a carpet chances are you're going to

1326
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:46,600
get an orb so I went searching on

1327
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:48,850
YouTube for there was a video I saw

1328
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:50,590
about debunking orbs and I was going to

1329
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:53,290
send it to her and then I saw this is

1330
01:06:57,330 --> 01:06:55,150
maybe six years ago I saw a video from

1331
01:06:59,490 --> 01:06:57,340
someone who said he was talking to

1332
01:07:01,380 --> 01:06:59,500
ghosts with a spirit box so I was

1333
01:07:04,530 --> 01:07:01,390
intrigued I clicked on it and you know

1334
01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:04,540
that was back then when the psb7 spirit

1335
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:07,420
box first came out right and he was

1336
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:09,690
using that and you know I was hearing

1337
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:12,400
recognizable answers to his questions so

1338
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:14,560
I was intrigued so I started researching

1339
01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:16,330
and there was a couple of small

1340
01:07:20,850 --> 01:07:18,340
communities uh you know like yahoo

1341
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:20,860
groups and stuff like that there was

1342
01:07:25,940 --> 01:07:23,020
nothing really big on YouTube or even

1343
01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:25,950
Facebook at the time just small groups

1344
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:28,600
but I guess the hot thing to buy at the

1345
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:32,050
time or to own was a Frank's box are you

1346
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:35,530
familiar with rings box absolutely so

1347
01:07:39,570 --> 01:07:37,270
then I was like okay how can I get ahold

1348
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:39,580
of one and I was finding it was

1349
01:07:43,950 --> 01:07:41,350
impossible you know unless you do Frank

1350
01:07:46,590 --> 01:07:43,960
and I didn't know him he we became

1351
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:46,600
friends on Facebook but we really didn't

1352
01:07:50,430 --> 01:07:48,550
know each other and he wasn't selling

1353
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:50,440
any boxes at the time so I'm like hmm

1354
01:07:55,350 --> 01:07:53,050
well let me check my local Craigslist

1355
01:07:57,210 --> 01:07:55,360
you know what are the odds of you know

1356
01:07:59,730 --> 01:07:57,220
local Craigslist someone's going to have

1357
01:08:02,790 --> 01:07:59,740
a Frakes box GM ever died question three

1358
01:08:04,590 --> 01:08:02,800
typed in Frank's box and lo and behold

1359
01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:04,600
ten minutes away from me somebody was

1360
01:08:10,050 --> 01:08:07,780
selling Frank's box so I messaged um he

1361
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:10,060
was selling it for 250 bucks I met him

1362
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:11,890
up in a store parking lot and he was

1363
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:13,300
afraid the death of the thing he's like

1364
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:15,370
oh my god I have to get rid of this and

1365
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:16,870
stay in the house the wife so that has

1366
01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:20,020
to go so I was like okay I'll take it

1367
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:23,560
you know so I I went in originally to

1368
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:25,210
debunk I was like this camp

1369
01:08:30,150 --> 01:08:27,850
real you can't turn on a device and talk

1370
01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:30,160
to the dead there's no way so as soon as

1371
01:08:34,260 --> 01:08:32,200
I turn on the Franks box and I actually

1372
01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:34,270
started with a psb7 but it was so noisy

1373
01:08:38,670 --> 01:08:36,100
I want to try something different

1374
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:38,680
yeah the people I come in yeah all of

1375
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:41,170
those they irritate me I mean I don't

1376
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:42,790
know how people sit there with those

1377
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,480
things for hours yeah you got that you

1378
01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:48,640
know and I think that was designed that

1379
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:50,710
way with the thought and the theory that

1380
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:52,960
well the white noise might help the

1381
01:08:56,910 --> 01:08:55,330
communication but anyway we went you

1382
01:08:59,789 --> 01:08:56,920
know I turned on the Frank's box and

1383
01:09:02,729 --> 01:08:59,799
first thing I do is say is anyone here

1384
01:09:04,979 --> 01:09:02,739
with me and I hear it say Paul in a

1385
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:04,989
weird voice and I'm like what and then

1386
01:09:09,870 --> 01:09:07,210
the next thing was a woman saying be

1387
01:09:11,610 --> 01:09:09,880
careful and I was like okay there's

1388
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,620
something to this so then I just kind of

1389
01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:14,080
dope head in full steam I started

1390
01:09:18,030 --> 01:09:15,910
recording videos my son became

1391
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:18,040
interested and that's what started the

1392
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:19,120
YouTube channel

1393
01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:22,450
my second when the first one I got so

1394
01:09:28,110 --> 01:09:23,980
scared from it at the beginning I shut

1395
01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:28,120
it all down but now I don't fear it at

1396
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:30,339
all but anyway so back to well that's

1397
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:34,239
how I got started so as time went on I

1398
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,270
got really involved in this whole ITC

1399
01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:39,520
thing and I was getting really good

1400
01:09:45,450 --> 01:09:41,620
communication even with you know like

1401
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:45,460
the hack radios and stuff and I tried to

1402
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:48,250
buy as many unique boxes as I could at a

1403
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,330
Joe's box mini box and then I noticed

1404
01:09:56,820 --> 01:09:55,120
apps were starting to come out and

1405
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:56,830
everybody was saying well apps are fake

1406
01:10:02,880 --> 01:09:59,050
but I'm like well let's try them if it's

1407
01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:02,890
the same concept as a scanning radio but

1408
01:10:07,190 --> 01:10:05,260
it's scanning through various audible

1409
01:10:10,260 --> 01:10:07,200
banks maybe it'll have the same result

1410
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:10,270
and I was getting some decent results

1411
01:10:17,070 --> 01:10:15,370
but for some reason I had a oh I have a

1412
01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:17,080
guitar set up with an amp and a bunch of

1413
01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:19,540
pedals and one night I'm like what would

1414
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:21,550
happen if I plugged it into my amp we

1415
01:10:25,740 --> 01:10:23,410
know to boost it and give it a big sound

1416
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:25,750
but I ran it through the pedal board so

1417
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:28,960
I started it with just the amp and I'm

1418
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,670
like wow it's loud you know and then I

1419
01:10:35,010 --> 01:10:32,560
was like what would happen if I hit the

1420
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:35,020
reverb right as soon as I press them as

1421
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:38,050
soon as I press that reverb things got a

1422
01:10:41,310 --> 01:10:38,890
little more slide

1423
01:10:44,370 --> 01:10:41,320
not as chatty with the scan and then I

1424
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:44,380
was hearing much longer replies coming

1425
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:45,970
out so instead of one and two quick

1426
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:48,400
words I was starting to hear three four

1427
01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:51,490
five words or a phrase so I was like hey

1428
01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:54,580
there's something to this so that's when

1429
01:11:00,330 --> 01:10:57,430
I got together with Anthony Sanchez of

1430
01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:00,340
ghost hunter wraps and I'm like well

1431
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:02,830
let's let's make this app and let's copy

1432
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:05,440
the formula of a scanning radio but

1433
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:07,510
let's use internet radio so there's no

1434
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:10,780
white noise thus eliminating next you

1435
01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:13,510
know of the psb7 and I was like let's

1436
01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:15,880
test it out you know see if we can get

1437
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:17,260
anything and I said if you can if you

1438
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:20,680
can add a reverb within the app do that

1439
01:11:25,340 --> 01:11:22,230
as well because it might improve

1440
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:25,350
communication so after all the testing

1441
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:28,570
we found or I found definitely that

1442
01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:31,240
adding that reverb definitely helped

1443
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:34,540
with not only more replies but longer

1444
01:11:41,190 --> 01:11:37,570
replies and sometimes more direct

1445
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:41,200
replies so you know that's where the

1446
01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:43,600
whole guitar thing started and then it

1447
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:44,920
kind of just grew from there that

1448
01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:47,920
something so simple was becoming so

1449
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:50,740
effective for this work you know it's

1450
01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:54,580
pretty crazy now not worth it and now

1451
01:11:59,010 --> 01:11:56,590
I've produced a lot of records a lot of

1452
01:12:01,970 --> 01:11:59,020
bands you probably know about my

1453
01:12:06,210 --> 01:12:01,980
background I know the audio chain

1454
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:06,220
digital analog audio effect every every

1455
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:08,560
layer of everything or at least I

1456
01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:10,270
thought I had a grip until you came

1457
01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:16,030
along so what what is the deal with the

1458
01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:19,800
reverb have you looked into this and why

1459
01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:23,470
you know I I can't answer it the only

1460
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:26,440
thing that I would because I thought

1461
01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:27,850
about this a lot when I watch your

1462
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:31,900
videos is reverbs are very complex it's

1463
01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:33,880
the hardest it's the hardest code to

1464
01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:38,230
write in in digital effects because it's

1465
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:42,430
it's bazillions of of responses because

1466
01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:44,530
of the decay you know the larva decay of

1467
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:47,080
the more the more coding that has to be

1468
01:12:53,130 --> 01:12:50,290
done and it's a continuous loop by the

1469
01:12:56,190 --> 01:12:53,140
way that's the other thing a reverb Lou

1470
01:12:58,140 --> 01:12:56,200
since the signal back it restarts and it

1471
01:13:00,330 --> 01:12:58,150
goes back out longer but at a lower

1472
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:00,340
volume comes back returns goes back out

1473
01:13:05,730 --> 01:13:02,170
and it does this millions of times per

1474
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:05,740
second is that why why why does the

1475
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:10,000
reverb work I wish I could answer that

1476
01:13:16,650 --> 01:13:12,490
but I have tested over a dozen different

1477
01:13:18,510 --> 01:13:16,660
reverbs and even created my own setting

1478
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:18,520
for one of the pedals that allows you to

1479
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:21,790
program your own reverb algorithm and

1480
01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:25,570
what I found is the longer the decay

1481
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:28,870
right the better it works but not so

1482
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:31,450
much not so much high on the reverb

1483
01:13:36,660 --> 01:13:34,600
effect but the decay seems to be helping

1484
01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:36,670
and I really can't answer that question

1485
01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:39,460
I just know it works yeah but it has it

1486
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:40,720
has something to do with that decay I

1487
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:42,490
think I'm not really sure though yeah

1488
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,750
but I did

1489
01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:46,000
the longer than hey the more lines of

1490
01:13:51,390 --> 01:13:47,950
code that are there the more complex it

1491
01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:51,400
that it is and in my mind's eye Stephen

1492
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:54,340
not look here the pro here but I think

1493
01:14:00,780 --> 01:13:57,310
it's it's more digital information for

1494
01:14:02,610 --> 01:14:00,790
the other side to grab on to yes that's

1495
01:14:04,770 --> 01:14:02,620
a very good theory actually because I

1496
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:04,780
found you know over the years when I

1497
01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:07,600
started making my first device the

1498
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:09,340
portal it was so simple and I told

1499
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:10,990
everybody how to make it online it our

1500
01:14:13,770 --> 01:14:12,550
members are still there at my website

1501
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:13,780
yeah

1502
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:16,870
and basically it consisted of a noise

1503
01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:20,350
reduction and a reverb on an amp and the

1504
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:23,380
noise reduction was for if you plug in

1505
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:26,110
something like a psb7 you could turn

1506
01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:28,090
that noise reduction up until that noise

1507
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:31,270
is about 85% gone but you still hear the

1508
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:33,610
voices and the reverb is taking that

1509
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:36,730
psb7 and allowing those responses to go

1510
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:38,770
from those one and two quick words to

1511
01:14:44,780 --> 01:14:41,410
sometimes even a full sentence so it's

1512
01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:44,790
crazy how something so simple managed to

1513
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:47,860
change that whole dynamic of the psb7

1514
01:14:52,860 --> 01:14:50,200
and make it so effective it's crazy

1515
01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:52,870
really now I want to get to a couple of

1516
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:55,300
other technical things the guy talk will

1517
01:14:58,290 --> 01:14:56,950
get that out of the way before the break

1518
01:14:59,850 --> 01:14:58,300
and then when we come back we'll talk

1519
01:15:02,330 --> 01:14:59,860
about some of the communications that

1520
01:15:05,899 --> 01:15:02,340
you've had you've got a really cool

1521
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:05,909
steampunk look going on right love it

1522
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:11,090
and you've got some really cool display

1523
01:15:15,919 --> 01:15:13,170
activity that's on the front of the amp

1524
01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:15,929
- so take us through that and and what

1525
01:15:20,750 --> 01:15:17,670
is going on there and and where did you

1526
01:15:23,959 --> 01:15:20,760
start to come up with this look okay

1527
01:15:25,879 --> 01:15:23,969
well as it progressed you know started

1528
01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:25,889
with the portal it was basic nothing was

1529
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:28,409
painted I just velcroed the pedals on

1530
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:31,770
the side you know and it worked but I

1531
01:15:36,620 --> 01:15:33,840
wanted to make it better and believe it

1532
01:15:39,050 --> 01:15:36,630
or not before I made that when I first

1533
01:15:42,979 --> 01:15:39,060
tested the reverb and I was using my

1534
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:42,989
guitar amp they were giving me tips one

1535
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:45,210
message was cut the noise and I was like

1536
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:47,730
cut the noise okay that's when I thought

1537
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:50,250
of the noise reduction pedal you know

1538
01:15:56,169 --> 01:15:51,570
and little things they were talking

1539
01:16:00,590 --> 01:15:56,179
about energy electrical energy my energy

1540
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:00,600
even orgonite orgone energy so over the

1541
01:16:06,979 --> 01:16:03,810
last two years that portal has become

1542
01:16:08,419 --> 01:16:06,989
what I call the wonder box because it's

1543
01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:08,429
so full of wonders you know you can't

1544
01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:11,340
explain any of it but it works so you

1545
01:16:17,959 --> 01:16:14,040
have in the wonder box today

1546
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:17,969
it's basically using a small guitar amp

1547
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:20,489
with kind of a high little high wattage

1548
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:23,730
you know high power and it's using the

1549
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:26,190
noise reduction it's using the reverb

1550
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:29,520
the best reverb I found to work and a

1551
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:32,850
reverse algorithm that takes the

1552
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:36,090
incoming signal and after a 5 to 6

1553
01:16:42,169 --> 01:16:39,719
second buffer it starts reversing the

1554
01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:42,179
audio so not exactly real-time but a 6

1555
01:16:46,220 --> 01:16:43,710
seconds it takes time head needs some

1556
01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:46,230
time to start reversing the audio so if

1557
01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:49,380
you have say I've loaded it with a

1558
01:16:54,129 --> 01:16:51,960
police scanner from a police scanner app

1559
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:54,139
on my phone I would then hit the reverse

1560
01:17:00,290 --> 01:16:57,840
pedal it would start reversing so all we

1561
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:00,300
should hear is gibberish so there should

1562
01:17:05,450 --> 01:17:03,540
be no explanation or there no-one should

1563
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:05,460
be able to explain if you get a full

1564
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:08,550
forward speech direct answer to your

1565
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:10,739
question and that's exactly what was

1566
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:12,360
happening I was getting direct answers

1567
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:15,090
to my question in forward speech with a

1568
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:18,080
police scanner going in in Reverse so

1569
01:17:21,919 --> 01:17:19,650
the wonder box

1570
01:17:25,790 --> 01:17:21,929
now has that it has the reverse mode it

1571
01:17:28,459 --> 01:17:25,800
has the reverb and then I also found by

1572
01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:28,469
testing various pitch shifting pedals

1573
01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:33,270
that if you lower the pitch a little bit

1574
01:17:39,410 --> 01:17:36,420
I was finding I was getting 30% up to

1575
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:39,420
30% more replies so it seems like the

1576
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:43,920
more things that are added the more

1577
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:45,690
replies come through and I've also added

1578
01:17:51,770 --> 01:17:49,409
the organ I've added d the big copper I

1579
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:51,780
call it the human energy transfer which

1580
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:53,730
they told me to add and they now they

1581
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:56,400
keep telling me to touch it and hold it

1582
01:18:01,100 --> 01:17:58,770
the theory is it can transfer some of my

1583
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:01,110
energy for them to use which I don't

1584
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:03,330
really recommend others do because on a

1585
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:05,760
couple of occasions I think it really

1586
01:18:09,709 --> 01:18:08,310
worked and I was so drained by the end

1587
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:09,719
of it I really didn't feel good for a

1588
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,960
couple days but you know so you add in

1589
01:18:17,530 --> 01:18:14,940
all these things the electricity the

1590
01:18:20,959 --> 01:18:17,540
current the effects that seemed to work

1591
01:18:23,330 --> 01:18:20,969
and put it all in a nice cool-looking

1592
01:18:25,340 --> 01:18:23,340
package and the thing just sounds and

1593
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:25,350
looks awesome and the display on the

1594
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:28,020
front I recently added it's just like an

1595
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:31,290
audio you know audio display of what's

1596
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:33,210
coming through so you can actually see

1597
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:35,310
because some people were like well you

1598
01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:36,510
know you could have added that and

1599
01:18:40,459 --> 01:18:38,100
editing and I'm like well yeah I could

1600
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,469
have but I don't but so maybe this audio

1601
01:18:44,750 --> 01:18:42,239
waveform can show people know it's

1602
01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:44,760
coming through in real time so that's

1603
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,150
what motivated me to put that in so yeah

1604
01:18:53,419 --> 01:18:50,400
it's it's it's starting to get a lot of

1605
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:53,429
attention there's a lot of people who

1606
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:55,770
are using the original portal and I get

1607
01:19:00,140 --> 01:18:57,570
videos every week sent to me with their

1608
01:19:01,790 --> 01:19:00,150
evidence and you know a lot of other

1609
01:19:03,229 --> 01:19:01,800
people are building boxes and they're

1610
01:19:04,820 --> 01:19:03,239
incorporating reverb and they're

1611
01:19:06,919 --> 01:19:04,830
experimenting with effects and I think

1612
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:06,929
that's awesome you know because more

1613
01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:09,060
people that experiment you know maybe

1614
01:19:12,260 --> 01:19:10,590
someone else is going to find someone

1615
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:12,270
else that takes it to the next level

1616
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,409
right right right

1617
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:15,360
how long does it take you to build one

1618
01:19:20,689 --> 01:19:19,199
now I love your videos I've watched your

1619
01:19:27,229 --> 01:19:20,699
videos over here so I've got I've got

1620
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:27,239
seven in production right well I work

1621
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:29,010
you know on a my photography website

1622
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:31,350
which is what pays the bills but I've

1623
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:32,730
been doing that for eight nine years

1624
01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:33,570
almost now

1625
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:36,540
and this when when I have some spare

1626
01:19:40,490 --> 01:19:38,850
time coming up I'll offer on my website

1627
01:19:42,890 --> 01:19:40,500
a few for sale three or four or

1628
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:42,900
something five sometimes and if I take

1629
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:45,120
say five orders it'll take me a good

1630
01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:47,250
three three and a half weeks to get

1631
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:50,820
those done because the way I make them

1632
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:52,620
now it goes through like this whole I

1633
01:19:57,530 --> 01:19:55,440
paint a triple clear coat it with

1634
01:20:01,550 --> 01:19:57,540
professional automotive clear coat I

1635
01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:01,560
make sure I add Lee odden neodymium

1636
01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:05,400
magnets on the inside with some copper

1637
01:20:12,530 --> 01:20:08,450
with the theory of creating a magnetic

1638
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:12,540
field inside right um so yeah it takes

1639
01:20:19,010 --> 01:20:14,130
about three three and a half weeks and

1640
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:19,020
what is it what are they so for a lot I

1641
01:20:24,610 --> 01:20:21,570
can only imagine it's okay

1642
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:24,620
it's okay tell me that the custom that I

1643
01:20:32,690 --> 01:20:28,170
recently sold a run of 15 over a few

1644
01:20:36,050 --> 01:20:32,700
months actually I sold that for 1899 but

1645
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:36,060
in parts alone in cost me anywhere

1646
01:20:42,710 --> 01:20:40,050
between 1350 and 1400 sure and then I

1647
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:42,720
pay I pay you know to ship it and all

1648
01:20:47,780 --> 01:20:44,970
that kind of stuff so yeah I mean it's

1649
01:20:52,220 --> 01:20:47,790
not for everyone but for those who are

1650
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:52,230
really into ITC have experienced with

1651
01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:54,480
have experience with spiritbox devices

1652
01:20:57,950 --> 01:20:55,710
and know what they're doing correct

1653
01:21:00,170 --> 01:20:57,960
techniques those are the people that

1654
01:21:01,730 --> 01:21:00,180
would benefit the most from it I tell

1655
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:01,740
people who are newbies I'm like I

1656
01:21:06,890 --> 01:21:04,440
wouldn't recommend this device for you I

1657
01:21:09,730 --> 01:21:06,900
would recommend something like a psb7 or

1658
01:21:12,890 --> 01:21:09,740
an app to start out with yeah absolutely

1659
01:21:17,390 --> 01:21:12,900
not I have to ask which reverb pedal

1660
01:21:20,770 --> 01:21:17,400
have you settled on well I used to use

1661
01:21:24,230 --> 01:21:20,780
the there's one called hall-of-fame mini

1662
01:21:26,150 --> 01:21:24,240
and that when I was able to create my

1663
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:26,160
own algorithm for and I have that

1664
01:21:30,710 --> 01:21:28,650
information on my website as well so

1665
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:30,720
people can program those settings into

1666
01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:32,490
it and that's the cheapest option I

1667
01:21:36,740 --> 01:21:34,590
think that's that pedal runs around a

1668
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:36,750
hundred bucks or so right right on the

1669
01:21:41,540 --> 01:21:38,850
pedal that the pedal that I've been

1670
01:21:45,530 --> 01:21:41,550
using recently is made by Earthquaker

1671
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:45,540
devices and it's called the transmitter

1672
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:46,980
it's like 240

1673
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:50,730
bucks and it's a really rich sounding

1674
01:21:55,850 --> 01:21:53,010
reverb you can set those decay and

1675
01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:55,860
trails to really long or really short it

1676
01:22:02,720 --> 01:21:59,250
has this pulse to it that is fast or

1677
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,730
slow and if you go a lot of times I'll

1678
01:22:07,250 --> 01:22:04,080
ask them to I'm going to go fast or slow

1679
01:22:10,970 --> 01:22:07,260
and usually they say fast so it's like

1680
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:10,980
a11y it's like a pulse of the reverb so

1681
01:22:15,229 --> 01:22:12,360
that's that's what I do and for the

1682
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:15,239
reverse it's important like if anybody's

1683
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:17,130
going to build one of these you put the

1684
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:22,800
reverse before the I'm sorry after the

1685
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:25,980
reverb because it's not only reversed in

1686
01:22:30,530 --> 01:22:28,110
the audio it's reversing the reverb and

1687
01:22:33,229 --> 01:22:30,540
I found when I did that it made it much

1688
01:22:35,810 --> 01:22:33,239
more effective and it's just kind of an

1689
01:22:37,090 --> 01:22:35,820
it it gives it this outer world sound -

1690
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:37,100
out-of-this-world sound with that

1691
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:40,050
reverses on it's really interesting and

1692
01:22:45,229 --> 01:22:43,650
now a couple of others I'm just getting

1693
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:45,239
the technical stuff out of the way what

1694
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:49,290
no problem what amps do you find that

1695
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:52,410
ended up working the best there's an amp

1696
01:23:00,190 --> 01:22:54,960
that's practically made for this and

1697
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:00,200
it's amazing it's a GT lunchbox junior

1698
01:23:04,670 --> 01:23:03,330
they're on 250 bucks they used to be a

1699
01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:04,680
hundred and fifty and they raise the

1700
01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:07,590
price but and the company the company is

1701
01:23:11,540 --> 01:23:09,510
aware that everybody is making portals

1702
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:11,550
with them I think they sell more to

1703
01:23:17,330 --> 01:23:14,489
people making portals than they do for

1704
01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:17,340
people playing guitar so I've spoken

1705
01:23:22,700 --> 01:23:19,980
with the company about it and the reason

1706
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:22,710
it's made for it I say is because you

1707
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:25,770
add all these pedals right and you have

1708
01:23:30,820 --> 01:23:28,770
the amp the cool thing is you can add a

1709
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:30,830
battery to it

1710
01:23:36,970 --> 01:23:34,560
they're like 89 bucks a rechargeable

1711
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:36,980
battery and the amp has a connection

1712
01:23:41,660 --> 01:23:39,450
where you can daisy chain all those

1713
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:41,670
pedals plug it into the back of the amp

1714
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:43,920
then you plug your battery into the back

1715
01:23:48,979 --> 01:23:46,050
of the amp and that battery will power

1716
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:48,989
not only the amp but all the effects for

1717
01:23:52,580 --> 01:23:51,060
about eight hours of use oh that's cool

1718
01:23:54,830 --> 01:23:52,590
you don't have you don't have to plug it

1719
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:54,840
in it's portable you can take it with

1720
01:23:59,570 --> 01:23:57,810
you and so that makes it perfect I mean

1721
01:24:00,990 --> 01:23:59,580
you can use other amps but you won't

1722
01:24:02,850 --> 01:24:01,000
have that integration of

1723
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:02,860
battery power and all that good stuff

1724
01:24:09,450 --> 01:24:06,130
now and one last little quick question

1725
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:09,460
with things like the transmitter and the

1726
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:12,310
other do you take the guts out of the

1727
01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:15,760
pedals or you know are you reconfiguring

1728
01:24:20,670 --> 01:24:17,710
the electronics and putting them in in

1729
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:20,680
the back of the wonder box or are all of

1730
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,190
these mounted externally they're mounted

1731
01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:26,560
externally which gives it a totally

1732
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:29,470
different look and it's just it's almost

1733
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:31,390
like you know you there's some boxes

1734
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:33,010
that you have a power button and the

1735
01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:34,180
volume and that's easy

1736
01:24:39,540 --> 01:24:36,940
I like to say that this box is for those

1737
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:39,550
who like to tinker because any little

1738
01:24:48,030 --> 01:24:42,490
setting change can alter the results it

1739
01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:48,040
seems so I used to experiment with

1740
01:24:52,530 --> 01:24:50,740
opening the pedals and trying to change

1741
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:52,540
and stuff and I blew up two or three of

1742
01:24:58,170 --> 01:24:55,690
them and lost like 800 bucks but I and

1743
01:25:01,950 --> 01:24:58,180
then I used to in in the first portal I

1744
01:25:05,370 --> 01:25:01,960
would attach certain crystals inside the

1745
01:25:08,850 --> 01:25:05,380
pedals seeing if that would help and it

1746
01:25:10,770 --> 01:25:08,860
was really inconclusive on that so yeah

1747
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,780
so everything is outside for easy access

1748
01:25:15,150 --> 01:25:13,120
that's why I say it's for those with

1749
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:15,160
experience because a lot of people it

1750
01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:17,440
could be overwhelming they see this box

1751
01:25:21,690 --> 01:25:19,480
with like you know all these dials on it

1752
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:21,700
and oh my god what does what but what I

1753
01:25:25,500 --> 01:25:23,710
saw want to make a private video for

1754
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:25,510
each owner using a box showing them how

1755
01:25:29,730 --> 01:25:27,250
to use it and kind of the best results

1756
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:29,740
anyway so so yeah and that's the other

1757
01:25:34,140 --> 01:25:31,480
that's the other question do so you

1758
01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:34,150
guide everybody through presets right

1759
01:25:40,020 --> 01:25:37,440
because there's a lot of knobs here and

1760
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:40,030
yeah and they could really go in the

1761
01:25:44,130 --> 01:25:41,410
wrong direction really quick if you

1762
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,140
don't know what you're doing so that you

1763
01:25:50,420 --> 01:25:46,800
have you do you do guide people on

1764
01:25:52,710 --> 01:25:50,430
presets and kind of like start here oh

1765
01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:52,720
definitely like I said they each get a

1766
01:25:58,530 --> 01:25:56,380
video using their box with a demo and

1767
01:26:00,660 --> 01:25:58,540
each demo I do we're just demoing it we

1768
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:00,670
always get replies coming through so

1769
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:02,410
they usually love their their private

1770
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:04,150
videos because it shows them all the

1771
01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:06,430
settings I use and how I conduct a

1772
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:08,500
session and my tips the things that I

1773
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:10,800
think work you know from my experience

1774
01:26:17,339 --> 01:26:15,010
and yeah so alright well

1775
01:26:19,259 --> 01:26:17,349
let's take a break right here now when

1776
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:19,269
we come back we're going to go straight

1777
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:22,090
to it and talk about communications and

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01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:25,090
of course coffee with Steve one of my

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01:26:29,219 --> 01:26:27,249
favorite things we'll do all of that

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01:26:31,109 --> 01:26:29,229
Steven Huff is our guest tonight Huff

1781
01:26:32,939 --> 01:26:31,119
paranormal we're talking about his

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wonder box and communication with

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01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:34,690
spirits and the other side this is fade

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to black

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I'm yours to be Church we'll be right

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Stephen of it has a series of videos

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that I got to tell you Stephen I've

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already told you this but I can't tell

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you how many mornings I kick it off and

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watch you're here coffee videos and I'm

1875
01:31:24,449 --> 01:31:22,269
drinking coffee now so I want to ask you

1876
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:24,459
this I get sucked in

1877
01:31:33,779 --> 01:31:27,489
okay and when I'm listening to the

1878
01:31:36,509 --> 01:31:33,789
communications I am in this I'm going to

1879
01:31:39,719 --> 01:31:36,519
the other side I'm going into the other

1880
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:39,729
world I part of it is the reverb to that

1881
01:31:45,149 --> 01:31:42,249
that adds the little Gary b-side to it

1882
01:31:48,979 --> 01:31:45,159
but I go into this and I'm just

1883
01:31:54,199 --> 01:31:48,989
imagining these spirits walking around

1884
01:31:57,629 --> 01:31:54,209
and in this community and it's this dark

1885
01:32:00,299 --> 01:31:57,639
this this place right is that what

1886
01:32:05,250 --> 01:32:00,309
happens to you do you get do you walk

1887
01:32:09,089 --> 01:32:05,260
through this this this netherworld well

1888
01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:09,099
I've seen it once now when I started

1889
01:32:13,739 --> 01:32:12,369
this I wasn't able to see anything you

1890
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:13,749
know I would hear voices

1891
01:32:18,060 --> 01:32:16,030
my son would - in my house with our own

1892
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:18,070
ears without any equipment on once we

1893
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:20,320
started really getting into it then I

1894
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:22,239
would start feeling them where you know

1895
01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:24,249
you see you know on some people say well

1896
01:32:28,310 --> 01:32:26,409
I get the goosebumps right for me it

1897
01:32:31,109 --> 01:32:28,320
feel it feels like a head-to-toe

1898
01:32:32,939 --> 01:32:31,119
electricity or there behind me on my

1899
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:32,949
right shoulder it's the electricity's

1900
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:35,260
there and a few years ago I would say

1901
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:36,370
wait where are you

1902
01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:38,170
because I feel this electricity on my

1903
01:32:44,610 --> 01:32:40,510
shoulder and they would tell me behind

1904
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:44,620
you um you know touching you so over

1905
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:47,310
time I realized okay when I feel that

1906
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:49,450
according to them that's where they're

1907
01:32:52,980 --> 01:32:51,850
touching me and then it would get so

1908
01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:52,990
intense sometimes

1909
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:55,120
and that's when they would say that they

1910
01:33:00,600 --> 01:32:58,210
were going in me or through me and then

1911
01:33:03,390 --> 01:33:00,610
as that progressed just recently I'd say

1912
01:33:06,510 --> 01:33:03,400
the last six months I came up with this

1913
01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:06,520
little theory this test idea to

1914
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:09,640
experiment with where I would attach a

1915
01:33:17,250 --> 01:33:14,290
copper coil to my head my waist or my

1916
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:17,260
stomach area and my finger all connected

1917
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:18,250
into the box

1918
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:22,090
now I did that because they I was

1919
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:24,070
driving from Sedona one day with my

1920
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:27,130
fiance and it just flashed in my head it

1921
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:28,690
was me and three others sitting at a

1922
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:31,570
table all wearing these connected to the

1923
01:33:34,710 --> 01:33:33,280
Wonder box and I would looked at her and

1924
01:33:36,540 --> 01:33:34,720
I said okay I have something I have to

1925
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:36,550
experiment with I went home I started

1926
01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:39,610
making one but two weeks later I finally

1927
01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:40,870
finished and I was like okay I'm going

1928
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:42,490
to go test him on the videos on my

1929
01:33:47,850 --> 01:33:45,370
youtube it's a longer video but I hook

1930
01:33:49,650 --> 01:33:47,860
it up turn it on and the session just

1931
01:33:51,570 --> 01:33:49,660
started getting so intense and they're

1932
01:33:53,850 --> 01:33:51,580
screaming for help and yelling pleading

1933
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:53,860
for help enough screaming begging for

1934
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:56,650
help and save us and then they started

1935
01:34:00,030 --> 01:33:58,210
talking about evil coming in then

1936
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:00,040
they're saying angels were coming into

1937
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:02,680
the room into the corners and then I

1938
01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:09,130
just started seeing this gray big area

1939
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:12,760
and I would say millions millions of

1940
01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:16,210
these figures that were basically a

1941
01:34:22,830 --> 01:34:19,360
shape and they were kind of dark and

1942
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:22,840
they were just walking slowly or moving

1943
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:26,110
slowly and I just felt this sense of

1944
01:34:32,220 --> 01:34:29,050
sadness and it made me really upset and

1945
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:32,230
I was you know like is this where they

1946
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:35,800
are because if so that would make sense

1947
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:37,810
for most of the communication I've

1948
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:41,110
received over the years and in my theory

1949
01:34:45,540 --> 01:34:43,210
is that most of what comes through this

1950
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:45,550
device and in all spirit boxes in my

1951
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:50,110
opinion our spirits who are either stuck

1952
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:52,960
or in some kind of holding place you

1953
01:34:58,020 --> 01:34:56,560
know some would say purgatory and and

1954
01:35:01,680 --> 01:34:58,030
they don't some don't know where they're

1955
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:01,690
at some call it hell as a matter of fact

1956
01:35:05,310 --> 01:35:03,850
just a couple weeks ago there's a video

1957
01:35:08,370 --> 01:35:05,320
where at the end they said we're

1958
01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:08,380
listening to you from hell and that kind

1959
01:35:12,660 --> 01:35:09,490
of freaked me out a little bit I don't

1960
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:12,670
really like that but you know we really

1961
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:14,770
don't know there's no way for me to

1962
01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:18,250
prove who's coming through what's coming

1963
01:35:24,660 --> 01:35:21,520
through so I can only go by what they

1964
01:35:27,420 --> 01:35:24,670
tell me and when I ask them on multiple

1965
01:35:30,180 --> 01:35:27,430
occasions you know are you a ghost

1966
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:30,190
are you an alien are you on another

1967
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:33,760
planet are you an angel a demon the only

1968
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:35,410
answers I've ever gotten are either

1969
01:35:44,090 --> 01:35:41,410
ghost spirit demon or angel so I have to

1970
01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:44,100
conclude that we are tapping into

1971
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:46,660
spirits or Souls they tell me that our

1972
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:48,730
souls are all pure energy were made of

1973
01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:52,330
energy and we live forever so there's

1974
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:54,070
all kinds of information that I've

1975
01:35:58,350 --> 01:35:55,360
gathered over the years that I've

1976
01:36:00,210 --> 01:35:58,360
already built to a notebook where I just

1977
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:00,220
have notes and notes and notes and if

1978
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:02,530
you read through them they all start to

1979
01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:06,210
match up to - these are lost souls and

1980
01:36:11,490 --> 01:36:08,680
they're stuck and they don't like where

1981
01:36:14,430 --> 01:36:11,500
they're at and it is otherworldly it's

1982
01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:14,440
really bizarre but as the more I do this

1983
01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:16,660
and the deeper I get into it and the

1984
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:20,590
more I tweak things and try to improve

1985
01:36:27,570 --> 01:36:24,370
it it seems like the more I can get

1986
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:27,580
myself into trouble because I've also

1987
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:30,010
been attacked twice and I'm those two

1988
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:32,290
occasions went to the hospital but I was

1989
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:36,130
having a heart attack and I was admitted

1990
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:38,290
on both occasions they said oh you're

1991
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:40,570
having a heart attack and then after

1992
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:42,130
they run all the tests they're like well

1993
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,530
it's inconclusive and you're healthy as

1994
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:46,960
a horse I don't smoke I don't have an

1995
01:36:52,110 --> 01:36:49,600
unhealthy lifestyle I don't do drugs so

1996
01:36:55,290 --> 01:36:52,120
I'm pretty much in shape so they could

1997
01:36:56,910 --> 01:36:55,300
not explain you know why that happened

1998
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:56,920
of course I didn't tell them that you

1999
01:37:00,750 --> 01:36:58,330
know I was talking to the dead and was

2000
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:00,760
attacked by driver he attacks the

2001
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:03,730
attacks were very real very physical

2002
01:37:09,450 --> 01:37:06,850
UH one of them my fiance freaked out and

2003
01:37:12,750 --> 01:37:09,460
was so upset because I kind of blacked

2004
01:37:14,910 --> 01:37:12,760
out but on the couch I was moving my

2005
01:37:17,190 --> 01:37:14,920
head was back she said I was choking I

2006
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:17,200
could breathe tears were coming down my

2007
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:20,320
face and as she was seeing this what I

2008
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:24,010
was seeing were these three things in a

2009
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:26,290
black hole in space and around this

2010
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:27,130
black hole

2011
01:37:31,770 --> 01:37:30,010
I saw translucent figures flying in a

2012
01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:31,780
circle around it and through this hole

2013
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:34,900
comes these three total demonic or

2014
01:37:39,630 --> 01:37:38,050
ghastly looking things and they just

2015
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:39,640
start trying to rip my stomach open

2016
01:37:45,300 --> 01:37:42,970
one's choking me and I thought without a

2017
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:45,310
shadow of a doubt that I was going to

2018
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,370
die and I'm not a religious guy at all I

2019
01:37:52,170 --> 01:37:50,560
never you know I went to church when I

2020
01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:52,180
was little my mom made me but I never

2021
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:53,830
grew up going to church or reading the

2022
01:37:59,520 --> 01:37:56,410
Bible I believe in a creator I'm a

2023
01:38:01,950 --> 01:37:59,530
spiritual person but so that when that

2024
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:01,960
was happening and by the way the whole

2025
01:38:05,340 --> 01:38:03,580
room went black for me I couldn't see

2026
01:38:07,860 --> 01:38:05,350
the room I couldn't see anything in them

2027
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:07,870
just just these things attacking me and

2028
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:11,770
they were telling me to stop and one of

2029
01:38:17,190 --> 01:38:14,890
the voices was talking about I had to

2030
01:38:19,229 --> 01:38:17,200
stop trying to cross spirits over

2031
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:19,239
because I used to say oh I asked for the

2032
01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:21,250
light to come down you know right that's

2033
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:22,600
another whole story in itself

2034
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:26,800
so that scared the hell out of me I went

2035
01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:28,930
to the hospital that night and after

2036
01:38:34,500 --> 01:38:31,540
that I said okay I'm never going to to

2037
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:34,510
do this ask for the light again and I've

2038
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:36,970
steered pretty much clear of it since

2039
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:41,530
then besides one time in in the hotel we

2040
01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:44,320
investigated a haunted hotel and silly

2041
01:38:47,460 --> 01:38:45,790
me at the end I asked for the light to

2042
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:47,470
come because spirits irassman for help

2043
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:49,810
and lo and behold that night the next

2044
01:38:53,850 --> 01:38:51,310
day when we went home I was attacked

2045
01:38:56,430 --> 01:38:53,860
back in the hospital so these days I

2046
01:39:00,330 --> 01:38:56,440
don't do the ask for the light anymore

2047
01:39:02,430 --> 01:39:00,340
so there's something there that in that

2048
01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:02,440
realm I see you know these these lost

2049
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:04,510
souls and then there's something more

2050
01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:08,050
powerful that keeps them there or or

2051
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:10,630
oversees them and they don't seem to

2052
01:39:16,740 --> 01:39:14,320
like anyone messing with that so I get

2053
01:39:17,670 --> 01:39:16,750
warnings all the time just today

2054
01:39:19,890 --> 01:39:17,680
actually upload

2055
01:39:22,710 --> 01:39:19,900
new coffee with spirits video and at the

2056
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:22,720
end the last message is we should kill

2057
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:25,210
you so it's like I get these creepy

2058
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:27,130
messages and at the same time I get

2059
01:39:32,430 --> 01:39:30,130
messages of love and peace and angelic

2060
01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:32,440
stuff so you know I try not to let it

2061
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:34,360
bother me or get scared because I feel

2062
01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:35,980
sealed you hear it then it's all over

2063
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:37,420
and you're going to drive yourself batty

2064
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:39,250
with you if you fear it and try to do

2065
01:39:47,010 --> 01:39:42,400
this work have you ever brought in a

2066
01:39:49,860 --> 01:39:47,020
psychic and at the same time I'm not at

2067
01:39:52,430 --> 01:39:49,870
the same time well I had a medium just

2068
01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:52,440
here last week that I know very well and

2069
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:54,670
that's a whole nother story I'm not big

2070
01:40:00,000 --> 01:39:57,520
on mediums but in my entire life I've

2071
01:40:03,810 --> 01:40:00,010
met two that I cannot explain and she is

2072
01:40:05,850 --> 01:40:03,820
one of them and I met her in Tombstone

2073
01:40:09,630 --> 01:40:05,860
about a year ago and we did a session

2074
01:40:11,480 --> 01:40:09,640
with my box there and she was saying how

2075
01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:11,490
she's like oh there's a Ron here and

2076
01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:14,140
then next thing you know the voice to

2077
01:40:18,750 --> 01:40:16,600
the box says it's Ron and then she's

2078
01:40:21,210 --> 01:40:18,760
like they're all lining up around this

2079
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:21,220
table to take their turn speaking to you

2080
01:40:26,430 --> 01:40:23,110
and she's like they do this with respect

2081
01:40:27,660 --> 01:40:26,440
and lo and behold a couple minutes later

2082
01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:27,670
they're like we're in line you know

2083
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:31,150
through the box so that was pretty cool

2084
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,070
and she was at my house a week ago where

2085
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:35,040
she tapped into a couple things but um

2086
01:40:40,770 --> 01:40:37,810
you know never anything like nothing

2087
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:40,780
scientific or anything but yeah I I

2088
01:40:47,070 --> 01:40:44,890
always I love to do this with you know

2089
01:40:49,170 --> 01:40:47,080
psychics or mediums or as a matter of

2090
01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:49,180
fact I'd like to travel around in an RV

2091
01:40:54,060 --> 01:40:51,550
and meet up with people and film and do

2092
01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:54,070
these experiments to try to figure out

2093
01:41:01,080 --> 01:40:56,710
what's going on you know yeah I've got a

2094
01:41:02,580 --> 01:41:01,090
couple of friends that maybe you should

2095
01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:02,590
talk to about that and we can do that

2096
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:06,190
off of the air I wanted to ask you this

2097
01:41:18,030 --> 01:41:13,990
the the that world that is theirs do you

2098
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:18,040
think that they can see your world you

2099
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:19,600
know the inside of your house you're

2100
01:41:24,630 --> 01:41:21,850
there drinking coffee do you think they

2101
01:41:27,210 --> 01:41:24,640
are aware of that or you know they are

2102
01:41:31,319 --> 01:41:27,220
completely cut off and they don't even

2103
01:41:36,030 --> 01:41:31,329
know a you know of you

2104
01:41:37,919 --> 01:41:36,040
and and in your atmosphere well I can

2105
01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:37,929
tell you this that over the years I

2106
01:41:43,379 --> 01:41:40,420
would do experiments like I would hold

2107
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:43,389
up a random object and say can you see

2108
01:41:46,770 --> 01:41:45,250
what I'm holding right and they would

2109
01:41:48,569 --> 01:41:46,780
name off what I'm holding you know like

2110
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,579
to hold up a record album what am i

2111
01:41:54,330 --> 01:41:50,800
holding they would say record what I

2112
01:41:56,939 --> 01:41:54,340
point to amplifier stereos what is that

2113
01:41:58,890 --> 01:41:56,949
amp um I would say and to try to trick

2114
01:42:00,540 --> 01:41:58,900
them what color hair do I have and they

2115
01:42:05,850 --> 01:42:00,550
would say you're bald

2116
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:05,860
so that's grainy yeah yeah that that

2117
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:08,290
they can't see and you know one of my

2118
01:42:13,470 --> 01:42:11,199
coffee sessions I was putting a peanut

2119
01:42:16,049 --> 01:42:13,480
butter on a waffle and they were like oh

2120
01:42:18,359 --> 01:42:16,059
looks good I remember that yeah I

2121
01:42:20,729 --> 01:42:18,369
remember that I remember that and yeah

2122
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:20,739
and and and what is I think what's

2123
01:42:26,970 --> 01:42:24,010
important to realize here is that it's

2124
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:26,980
kind of sad isn't it you're drinking a

2125
01:42:32,810 --> 01:42:29,050
coffee you you know you've got your

2126
01:42:35,220 --> 01:42:32,820
Atmos and and they can't access this

2127
01:42:37,319 --> 01:42:35,230
right there and things almost sounds

2128
01:42:39,899 --> 01:42:37,329
like it could be it could be lehel right

2129
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:39,909
right right you know they see everything

2130
01:42:44,879 --> 01:42:41,440
we're experiencing them doing because

2131
01:42:46,410 --> 01:42:44,889
they cannot participate and they find

2132
01:42:49,290 --> 01:42:46,420
out their voice can be heard through

2133
01:42:50,669 --> 01:42:49,300
devices like I use and they just want to

2134
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:50,679
talk through it and they want to ask for

2135
01:42:55,339 --> 01:42:52,690
help they think that we can help them in

2136
01:42:58,140 --> 01:42:55,349
some way so it is sad it's very sad

2137
01:43:01,200 --> 01:42:58,150
there's many a time but I do a session I

2138
01:43:03,450 --> 01:43:01,210
walk away teared up again I really get

2139
01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:03,460
into it yeah yeah yeah I get the same

2140
01:43:09,959 --> 01:43:07,030
vibe the the communications that you

2141
01:43:13,370 --> 01:43:09,969
have to do you have relationships built

2142
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:13,380
up you know do you have a writing spirit

2143
01:43:17,819 --> 01:43:16,090
yeah I like to think so there's certain

2144
01:43:21,089 --> 01:43:17,829
ones that come through they seem to

2145
01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:21,099
change every year or two though I have

2146
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:23,020
they tell me their guides and they're

2147
01:43:27,629 --> 01:43:25,449
helping me connect I've had Ava

2148
01:43:29,250 --> 01:43:27,639
then I had one called Billy who stuck

2149
01:43:31,470 --> 01:43:29,260
around for a while but many of my

2150
01:43:34,049 --> 01:43:31,480
viewers think he's a demon messing with

2151
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:34,059
me then the new one just popped up a

2152
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:36,250
couple weeks ago named ace and he's come

2153
01:43:41,069 --> 01:43:38,800
through no matter what app I used or

2154
01:43:43,979 --> 01:43:41,079
anything I used into it you know and he

2155
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:43,989
said he's there to help so and the funny

2156
01:43:47,370 --> 01:43:45,070
thing is

2157
01:43:51,089 --> 01:43:47,380
there's people all over the world who

2158
01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:51,099
use you know various ITC devices whether

2159
01:43:55,260 --> 01:43:53,710
it's a psb7 or what-have-you and they'll

2160
01:43:56,669 --> 01:43:55,270
send me a message and they're freaked

2161
01:43:58,919 --> 01:43:56,679
out those are like oh my god they're

2162
01:44:01,410 --> 01:43:58,929
just asking for you through my box and

2163
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:01,420
so it seems like in the spirit realm

2164
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:05,050
they seem to know of me and ask for me

2165
01:44:09,089 --> 01:44:07,090
through other people's sessions so it's

2166
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:09,099
kind of crazy if I sit down and really

2167
01:44:13,500 --> 01:44:11,110
think about it and really focus on it

2168
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:13,510
it's a little scary like okay so where

2169
01:44:18,750 --> 01:44:16,510
is this going to lead you know but it's

2170
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:18,760
also unexplainable I can't explain it

2171
01:44:24,990 --> 01:44:22,630
yeah is there a zone that you won't go

2172
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:25,000
into when you're communicating is there

2173
01:44:31,770 --> 01:44:28,210
something that you won't say well I

2174
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:31,780
never go out and seek for evil you know

2175
01:44:36,180 --> 01:44:33,369
so I well I wouldn't go out and say oh

2176
01:44:38,189 --> 01:44:36,190
can I speak to a demon or can can I

2177
01:44:39,450 --> 01:44:38,199
speak to something evil I know there's

2178
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,460
some people that do that but that's

2179
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:40,960
nothing I want I want to do I usually

2180
01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:42,159
tell them up front

2181
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:43,900
I don't welcome any evil anything

2182
01:44:49,410 --> 01:44:47,110
demonic you know and that doesn't always

2183
01:44:52,729 --> 01:44:49,420
work of course but yeah that's about the

2184
01:44:55,379 --> 01:44:52,739
only thing that I wouldn't wouldn't do

2185
01:44:57,899 --> 01:44:55,389
as a matter of fact there was one time

2186
01:45:00,089 --> 01:44:57,909
I'm so bummed that I missed out on it

2187
01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:00,099
it's a little bit some people would

2188
01:45:05,129 --> 01:45:02,380
probably not agree with it a friend of

2189
01:45:08,250 --> 01:45:05,139
mine who works on the Queen Mary he runs

2190
01:45:08,819 --> 01:45:08,260
the paranormal tours the official the

2191
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:08,829
good ones

2192
01:45:15,390 --> 01:45:12,730
Matthew Schultz he contacted me a couple

2193
01:45:18,689 --> 01:45:15,400
of years ago and it was a very sad sad

2194
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:18,699
situation his sister was basically dying

2195
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:20,110
she's in the hospital

2196
01:45:25,740 --> 01:45:22,690
and it was going to be her last night

2197
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:25,750
and he's in San Diego I'm in Phoenix on

2198
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:28,750
a six-hour Drive he asks he called me

2199
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:30,610
last minute can you head to San Diego

2200
01:45:35,550 --> 01:45:33,310
with your box I want to turn it on when

2201
01:45:37,859 --> 01:45:35,560
she passes and she agreed to it I guess

2202
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:37,869
and everything he wanted to this

2203
01:45:41,370 --> 01:45:39,730
experiment and and you know that was

2204
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:41,380
like going to be something that would be

2205
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:44,800
amazing if we got a validation but I

2206
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:46,480
felt a little uneasy with it you know

2207
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:49,690
it's like I don't know but it was a six

2208
01:45:53,790 --> 01:45:51,760
hour drive so it was late and I'm like

2209
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:53,800
no I really can't make it I have to

2210
01:45:58,830 --> 01:45:57,250
leave right now but I'd like to see you

2211
01:46:00,450 --> 01:45:58,840
know scientific testing

2212
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:00,460
this you know because if you can set

2213
01:46:05,460 --> 01:46:03,850
this by somebody you know who I've had a

2214
01:46:08,910 --> 01:46:05,470
lot of people actually email me and

2215
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:08,920
volunteer I'm like kind of a little

2216
01:46:13,650 --> 01:46:11,410
weird but if you could set this device

2217
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:13,660
next to somebody at the moment of their

2218
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:17,770
passing and then you you they say

2219
01:46:21,450 --> 01:46:19,840
something that you've agreed upon

2220
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:21,460
you know like Houdini when he died he

2221
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:23,770
told if he could come back you know he

2222
01:46:27,540 --> 01:46:25,690
would tell his wife the secret code or

2223
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:27,550
whatever that they had that's right but

2224
01:46:31,410 --> 01:46:28,810
if you could actually if you could

2225
01:46:33,390 --> 01:46:31,420
actually accomplish that that would to

2226
01:46:36,210 --> 01:46:33,400
me I mean and a lot of people prove

2227
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:36,220
without a shadow of a doubt that yes our

2228
01:46:42,900 --> 01:46:39,610
soul does go on when we die and we can

2229
01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:42,910
communicate with the living it's crazy

2230
01:46:45,660 --> 01:46:44,470
but you know there's a lot of things I

2231
01:46:47,490 --> 01:46:45,670
want to try but as far as what I

2232
01:46:50,460 --> 01:46:47,500
wouldn't do I don't ever go out looking

2233
01:46:54,450 --> 01:46:50,470
for anything people have you ever had

2234
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:54,460
have you had a spirit say okay this is

2235
01:47:00,720 --> 01:46:57,040
Bob I need you to contact my wife Mary

2236
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:00,730
and here's her address you know here's

2237
01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:02,410
her phone number this is how you get a

2238
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:05,710
hold of her as yeah you know never

2239
01:47:10,010 --> 01:47:07,930
details we you know there's they also

2240
01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:10,020
have mentioned that they have memories

2241
01:47:13,890 --> 01:47:11,950
they've went out of their way to say we

2242
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:13,900
have memories but then they also

2243
01:47:20,250 --> 01:47:17,110
mentioned their limited their memories

2244
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:20,260
aren't clear so while I've had them say

2245
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:22,930
first and last names like I do with

2246
01:47:26,430 --> 01:47:24,370
group nights I try to do them every

2247
01:47:28,890 --> 01:47:26,440
month where people all over the world

2248
01:47:30,630 --> 01:47:28,900
can join in for free they basically do a

2249
01:47:33,420 --> 01:47:30,640
fifteen minute meditation from their

2250
01:47:35,730 --> 01:47:33,430
home and I tell them how to do it and

2251
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,740
what to say and you know meet up with

2252
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:38,080
their loved ones as they're meditating

2253
01:47:43,470 --> 01:47:41,050
and we try to get their loved ones to

2254
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:43,480
come through my device that night and I

2255
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:47,410
record about an hour and through those

2256
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:51,090
we've had first and last names we've had

2257
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:55,090
direct messages that I had no like what

2258
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:56,170
is all this stuff coming through you

2259
01:48:00,780 --> 01:47:57,610
know it makes no sense to me

2260
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:00,790
but when people watch it they're like oh

2261
01:48:05,190 --> 01:48:03,010
my god that was my grandmother one that

2262
01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:05,200
always sticks out to me is it was one of

2263
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:07,420
the early ones and we heard this older

2264
01:48:11,370 --> 01:48:10,090
woman's voice say knitting fingerless

2265
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:11,380
gloves

2266
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:13,480
and then she also said a name I don't

2267
01:48:18,990 --> 01:48:15,670
remember the name but it turns out the

2268
01:48:20,850 --> 01:48:19,000
name was the woman who was meditating

2269
01:48:22,170 --> 01:48:20,860
for her grandmother to come through and

2270
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:22,180
get a validation and she said her

2271
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:23,830
grandmother died in a rocking chair

2272
01:48:27,810 --> 01:48:25,330
while she was knitting fingerless

2273
01:48:29,790 --> 01:48:27,820
clothes so to me that's a validation

2274
01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:29,800
when you get the name and a detail like

2275
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:33,460
that and instead of you know just a

2276
01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:35,410
medium you know telling you yeah your

2277
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:37,180
grandmother says this they can actually

2278
01:48:43,730 --> 01:48:40,090
hear it coming through a device so

2279
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:43,740
that's pretty amazing to me when when I

2280
01:48:51,020 --> 01:48:47,800
want you to share with me because you've

2281
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:51,030
had literally tens of thousands of

2282
01:48:56,010 --> 01:48:53,890
connections and your your YouTube

2283
01:48:57,900 --> 01:48:56,020
channel is is absolutely amazing just

2284
01:49:00,630 --> 01:48:57,910
hours and hours and hours and hours and

2285
01:49:05,490 --> 01:49:00,640
hours of it they take us through some of

2286
01:49:08,030 --> 01:49:05,500
your more favorite conversations and and

2287
01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:08,040
why they stand out for you

2288
01:49:14,970 --> 01:49:12,790
okay what was this recent it was in the

2289
01:49:16,740 --> 01:49:14,980
morning I don't know if it was a coffee

2290
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,750
session but it was in the morning and I

2291
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:18,880
had the box running on my kitchen

2292
01:49:24,180 --> 01:49:22,000
counter and I noticed it was unusually

2293
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:24,190
quiet and I was running an app called

2294
01:49:30,810 --> 01:49:27,670
vortex made by Matt pane in the UK and

2295
01:49:35,070 --> 01:49:30,820
the vortex basically scans internet

2296
01:49:37,290 --> 01:49:35,080
radio much like the SCT one does but it

2297
01:49:39,180 --> 01:49:37,300
was scanning and you can see the channel

2298
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:39,190
numbers changing but it was just silent

2299
01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:41,680
so I'm like what's going on so I waited

2300
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:43,870
and then I started to hear what sounded

2301
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:46,450
like someone taking a bath you can hear

2302
01:49:51,330 --> 01:49:49,210
bathwater so I was like okay this is

2303
01:49:53,190 --> 01:49:51,340
interesting I kept it going and then all

2304
01:49:56,610 --> 01:49:53,200
of a sudden the woman's voice came to

2305
01:49:59,040 --> 01:49:56,620
you very soft and she was chatting like

2306
01:50:01,620 --> 01:49:59,050
a direct conversation and you'd hear the

2307
01:50:04,590 --> 01:50:01,630
bathwater as she's talking and she

2308
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:04,600
mentioned that she had tuberculosis she

2309
01:50:10,350 --> 01:50:08,080
said TB and she went on and on and we

2310
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:10,360
were talking and I then moved the box

2311
01:50:14,610 --> 01:50:12,850
into the living room and it kind of went

2312
01:50:17,490 --> 01:50:14,620
silent again and I was like okay is

2313
01:50:19,740 --> 01:50:17,500
anybody there and you hear this evil

2314
01:50:22,170 --> 01:50:19,750
voice they turn it off right really

2315
01:50:24,570 --> 01:50:22,180
clear and loud so I shut it off out of

2316
01:50:25,540 --> 01:50:24,580
respect for that you know I always try

2317
01:50:27,819 --> 01:50:25,550
to respect

2318
01:50:30,459 --> 01:50:27,829
the voices that come through so I later

2319
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:30,469
look up and I'm like you know on Google

2320
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:32,719
what is bath does baths have anything to

2321
01:50:37,750 --> 01:50:35,210
do with tuberculosis and I guess back

2322
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:37,760
then one of the forms of treatment was

2323
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:41,119
giving a patient cold baths so to me I

2324
01:50:46,029 --> 01:50:43,280
think that I connected with a woman who

2325
01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:46,039
died of tuberculosis and somehow she was

2326
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,710
telling me or reliving that moment or

2327
01:50:52,299 --> 01:50:50,239
whatever when she was in the bath

2328
01:50:56,379 --> 01:50:52,309
getting treatment and that was such a

2329
01:50:58,089 --> 01:50:56,389
quiet direct session that's that's one

2330
01:51:03,069 --> 01:50:58,099
of my recent favorites but there's been

2331
01:51:06,220 --> 01:51:03,079
so many she's trying to remember other

2332
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:06,230
ones there's um it's been very hard for

2333
01:51:12,129 --> 01:51:09,920
them to get them to validate a heaven

2334
01:51:14,319 --> 01:51:12,139
you know I've asked so many times have

2335
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:14,329
you seen heaven and have you been to

2336
01:51:18,850 --> 01:51:16,489
heaven and usually what happens is

2337
01:51:21,629 --> 01:51:18,860
they'll just repeat the word heaven they

2338
01:51:24,970 --> 01:51:21,639
won't say yes it's real or no it's not

2339
01:51:29,140 --> 01:51:24,980
they've mentioned Jesus and God but a

2340
01:51:31,419 --> 01:51:29,150
couple weeks ago they validated I forgot

2341
01:51:34,180 --> 01:51:31,429
the exact wording but it was like it is

2342
01:51:36,489 --> 01:51:34,190
true heaven is real something like that

2343
01:51:38,259 --> 01:51:36,499
so that was the first time I ever got

2344
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:38,269
that kind of validation where they

2345
01:51:43,810 --> 01:51:41,119
flat-out said heaven is real now of

2346
01:51:46,270 --> 01:51:43,820
course you know you have the crowd that

2347
01:51:49,450 --> 01:51:46,280
says well those are just demons tricking

2348
01:51:51,819 --> 01:51:49,460
you so you know we do we believe every

2349
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:51,829
word that comes through probably not but

2350
01:52:02,200 --> 01:51:55,130
it is still nice to hear you know right

2351
01:52:05,709 --> 01:52:02,210
all right yeah and for me the the sad

2352
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:05,719
part is somebody has died here right

2353
01:52:10,060 --> 01:52:07,760
somebody's on the other side and it

2354
01:52:12,729 --> 01:52:10,070
could be tragic it could be natural

2355
01:52:15,580 --> 01:52:12,739
it could be hit by car light you know

2356
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:15,590
what we don't know but certainly they

2357
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:19,030
are not here with us and it seems that

2358
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:24,110
they don't know where they are right

2359
01:52:28,959 --> 01:52:26,449
that's that's that's what it feels like

2360
01:52:31,149 --> 01:52:28,969
somebody's confused and that is a

2361
01:52:36,700 --> 01:52:31,159
melancholy part of it you know it's very

2362
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:36,710
sad it's it's like a gray sepia tone

2363
01:52:39,700 --> 01:52:38,690
picture you know that I see in my mind

2364
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:39,710
yeah

2365
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:42,800
but the other part is children so it's

2366
01:52:47,770 --> 01:52:44,449
one thing to have an adult on the other

2367
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:47,780
side all right okay they may be able to

2368
01:52:53,650 --> 01:52:51,170
deal with it but it's it's the children

2369
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:53,660
and how does that affect you when you're

2370
01:52:58,660 --> 01:52:57,110
communicating with a child yeah it's

2371
01:53:00,820 --> 01:52:58,670
it's another one of those things where

2372
01:53:02,500 --> 01:53:00,830
do do I think it's really a child or is

2373
01:53:04,180 --> 01:53:02,510
it something else pretending to be I

2374
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:04,190
don't know but I've had many instances

2375
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:08,210
where back four or five years ago I

2376
01:53:12,700 --> 01:53:10,730
would record an EVP just you know from

2377
01:53:14,919 --> 01:53:12,710
Finnair EVP and I did a child's voice

2378
01:53:17,919 --> 01:53:14,929
and then I would get messages saying

2379
01:53:20,620 --> 01:53:17,929
there was a little girl named Nancy and

2380
01:53:22,689 --> 01:53:20,630
her parents living in my house as

2381
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:22,699
spirits and they you know they would

2382
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:24,710
talk to me through the boxes and I

2383
01:53:29,169 --> 01:53:26,330
turned them on this was four years ago

2384
01:53:32,169 --> 01:53:29,179
or so and sometimes to this day I still

2385
01:53:34,810 --> 01:53:32,179
get uhm Nancy and a little girl voice

2386
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:34,820
coming through and just recently you

2387
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:38,449
know I would say who's here whatever and

2388
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:39,679
how old are you and then there was a

2389
01:53:44,860 --> 01:53:41,330
voice of a little girl saying I'm only

2390
01:53:46,990 --> 01:53:44,870
10 so it's a mystery to me because the

2391
01:53:50,169 --> 01:53:47,000
kids the voices when they say they're

2392
01:53:52,660 --> 01:53:50,179
children they don't sound upset or

2393
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:52,670
depressed they sound happy and there was

2394
01:53:59,080 --> 01:53:55,520
a time I was using one of Anthony

2395
01:54:02,550 --> 01:53:59,090
Sanchez's apps vasa bus and I was

2396
01:54:05,890 --> 01:54:02,560
getting the most direct connection

2397
01:54:08,140 --> 01:54:05,900
unbelievable and you know the bank of

2398
01:54:10,959 --> 01:54:08,150
voice I think that app you used phonetic

2399
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:10,969
sounds and then the furious spirits can

2400
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:13,610
use those phenome the phonetic sounds to

2401
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:15,679
form words right and I think they were

2402
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:18,410
more based around a little girl sounding

2403
01:54:22,510 --> 01:54:21,290
voice but even so the spirit coming

2404
01:54:27,820 --> 01:54:22,520
through would tell me she was a little

2405
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:27,830
girl and she would just say the most

2406
01:54:33,130 --> 01:54:30,170
amazing love-filled things to me and

2407
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:33,140
they would make me tear up and those are

2408
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:34,850
some from like a couple years ago and

2409
01:54:37,689 --> 01:54:36,650
and they're just amazing I watched some

2410
01:54:40,419 --> 01:54:37,699
of the other night and I was like wow

2411
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:40,429
those were really intense like I would

2412
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:42,050
have there was a feature of the app

2413
01:54:46,209 --> 01:54:44,570
where it would play old timey music so I

2414
01:54:49,150 --> 01:54:46,219
would turn it on and I turn it off

2415
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:49,160
and then she would say turn off the

2416
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:51,050
music I like it better without that kind

2417
01:54:52,930 --> 01:54:52,730
of stuff she'd call me by my first and

2418
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:52,940
lat

2419
01:54:57,729 --> 01:54:55,850
name she would call out to my dogs I'd

2420
01:55:00,189 --> 01:54:57,739
be like can you see my dogs and she'd

2421
01:55:02,590 --> 01:55:00,199
yell out to my dog baby and tell me she

2422
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:02,600
loved my dogs so you build up this

2423
01:55:06,820 --> 01:55:04,730
little what you feel is a relationship

2424
01:55:08,260 --> 01:55:06,830
with some of these spirits who are

2425
01:55:11,439 --> 01:55:08,270
regulars you asked that question earlier

2426
01:55:14,610 --> 01:55:11,449
so yeah that's another example of of

2427
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:14,620
that that I feel you can get to know

2428
01:55:20,410 --> 01:55:16,850
these spirits who are coming through

2429
01:55:22,570 --> 01:55:20,420
it's it's crazy but it's real it's hard

2430
01:55:25,060 --> 01:55:22,580
for many to believe right right and

2431
01:55:26,860 --> 01:55:25,070
right that's fascinating that she knew

2432
01:55:28,630 --> 01:55:26,870
your first and last name is it because

2433
01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:28,640
you told it to her and she remembered it

2434
01:55:35,290 --> 01:55:33,320
or she knew it um well you know a lot of

2435
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:35,300
sessions I'll start out and say this is

2436
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:37,130
I'm Steve Huff I come as a friend I come

2437
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:38,330
in peace I mean no harm

2438
01:55:44,650 --> 01:55:41,330
right um and and so you know they could

2439
01:55:46,959 --> 01:55:44,660
hear that you know but a lot of times

2440
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:46,969
I'll turn it on and I'll be like hello

2441
01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:48,530
and I'm like hi and I'll be like mr.

2442
01:55:53,470 --> 01:55:51,340
Huff like they know me immediately so I

2443
01:55:56,020 --> 01:55:53,480
really don't know if they're here in my

2444
01:55:57,790 --> 01:55:56,030
house hanging out or than they're there

2445
01:56:00,580 --> 01:55:57,800
that other world it's all gray and dark

2446
01:56:02,620 --> 01:56:00,590
I don't know if it's a mixture you know

2447
01:56:04,150 --> 01:56:02,630
there's still a lot of answers but we

2448
01:56:07,180 --> 01:56:04,160
don't have and I feel we could do this

2449
01:56:09,550 --> 01:56:07,190
for 20 years and not have all of the

2450
01:56:11,110 --> 01:56:09,560
answers as probably we're not supposed

2451
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:11,120
to know them yeah we're going to hit a

2452
01:56:16,479 --> 01:56:14,000
break here in 60 seconds so let me ask

2453
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:16,489
you this have you have you contacted

2454
01:56:19,930 --> 01:56:17,690
anybody from the scientific community

2455
01:56:21,939 --> 01:56:19,940
your local college have you asked them

2456
01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:21,949
to come out and and try to figure out

2457
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,190
what's going on no but I would love to I

2458
01:56:28,660 --> 01:56:26,960
just don't have those connections but if

2459
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:28,670
I knew anybody I would love to try that

2460
01:56:32,020 --> 01:56:30,650
there's a new thing out Steven you

2461
01:56:35,620 --> 01:56:32,030
should check it out call the telephone

2462
01:56:37,570 --> 01:56:35,630
it's amazing it's just we know who to

2463
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:37,580
call me we think somebody will pick up

2464
01:56:41,709 --> 01:56:39,110
on the other end and say hello it's

2465
01:56:46,630 --> 01:56:41,719
really no I'm being sarcastic right now

2466
01:56:48,970 --> 01:56:46,640
but but yeah I would I would I would be

2467
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:48,980
the reason why I'm suggesting this is

2468
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:52,480
because what you have is obviously

2469
01:56:57,490 --> 01:56:55,280
communicating with something and it's

2470
01:56:58,959 --> 01:56:57,500
not your neighbor it's not your neighbor

2471
01:57:01,750 --> 01:56:58,969
it's not people down the street this

2472
01:57:05,140 --> 01:57:01,760
isn't no ham radio communication with

2473
01:57:06,380 --> 01:57:05,150
with Australia this is little something

2474
01:57:07,970 --> 01:57:06,390
going on and

2475
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:07,980
I think scientifically somebody should

2476
01:57:13,340 --> 01:57:10,050
actually come back and try to figure

2477
01:57:14,690 --> 01:57:13,350
this out that would be awesome

2478
01:57:17,090 --> 01:57:14,700
I don't think they will figure it out I

2479
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:17,100
don't think it's possible but and I

2480
01:57:21,470 --> 01:57:19,650
would love for someone to try that in a

2481
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:21,480
scientific manner yeah it's absolutely

2482
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:24,090
fascinating to me all right let's take a

2483
01:57:27,890 --> 01:57:25,770
break right here when we come back I

2484
01:57:31,490 --> 01:57:27,900
want to I want to know if you've caught

2485
01:57:33,380 --> 01:57:31,500
a spirit in a lie I know that there's

2486
01:57:34,850 --> 01:57:33,390
some deception going on with this too as

2487
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:34,860
well because they're going to mess with

2488
01:57:38,900 --> 01:57:37,110
you so we'll figure that out when we

2489
01:57:40,580 --> 01:57:38,910
come back this is fade to black I'm your

2490
01:57:42,710 --> 01:57:40,590
computer's our guest tonight Stephen

2491
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:42,720
Huff Huff paranormal we'll be right back

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[Music]

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right welcome back fade to black our

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Steve I didn't even think about this I

2596
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wonder if we could use a stereo

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2598
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it's possible on Avaya

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I added a Bluetooth receiver to the

2600
02:03:25,010 --> 02:03:22,530
Wonder box once to send you know the

2601
02:03:26,330 --> 02:03:25,020
apps wirelessly that was pretty cool but

2602
02:03:28,550 --> 02:03:26,340
yeah there's there's all kinds of things

2603
02:03:30,980 --> 02:03:28,560
I think Anthony Sanchez uses bluetooth I

2604
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:30,990
can his apps as well man hey yeah hey

2605
02:03:35,870 --> 02:03:33,690
yeah Anthony is on top of his game you

2606
02:03:37,310 --> 02:03:35,880
know he know what oh yeah I'll say this

2607
02:03:41,420 --> 02:03:37,320
about Anthony he's probably listening

2608
02:03:44,090 --> 02:03:41,430
right now he is much smarter than he

2609
02:03:46,700 --> 02:03:44,100
leads on I think he he's he's boy he's

2610
02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:46,710
got it he's got so many different really

2611
02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:50,370
cool products that he designs and and

2612
02:03:55,190 --> 02:03:52,560
where his head is at

2613
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:55,200
I think he's deceiving all of us with

2614
02:04:02,270 --> 02:03:57,810
his time I believe that because I always

2615
02:04:02,750 --> 02:04:02,280
say the genius he freaks me out man now

2616
02:04:06,830 --> 02:04:02,760
okay

2617
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:06,840
so now how do you know when a spirit is

2618
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:10,370
telling you the truth could it all be a

2619
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:13,440
deception and have you caught have you

2620
02:04:18,990 --> 02:04:15,610
cops ability in a lie and call them

2621
02:04:20,910 --> 02:04:19,000
on it okay well that's that's a good

2622
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:20,920
question it's a valid point because

2623
02:04:24,750 --> 02:04:23,290
technically you know like I said are we

2624
02:04:28,709 --> 02:04:24,760
to believe everything that comes through

2625
02:04:30,149 --> 02:04:28,719
and what I've found is I you know when

2626
02:04:31,740 --> 02:04:30,159
you put yourself out there doing what I

2627
02:04:33,540 --> 02:04:31,750
do you're going to attract people who

2628
02:04:35,850 --> 02:04:33,550
love do you going to check who hate you

2629
02:04:39,180 --> 02:04:35,860
attack skeptics you know who think

2630
02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:39,190
you're faking but you also attract the

2631
02:04:42,540 --> 02:04:40,960
very religious and and they're all

2632
02:04:44,490 --> 02:04:42,550
telling me all the time

2633
02:04:46,979 --> 02:04:44,500
you're only speaking with demons and

2634
02:04:49,439 --> 02:04:46,989
they're lying to you because they want

2635
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:49,449
to trick you so I think about this but

2636
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:51,730
I'm like okay well over the years I've

2637
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:53,730
had them tell me the ghosts angels

2638
02:04:58,770 --> 02:04:57,130
spirits and demons so when there's

2639
02:05:00,390 --> 02:04:58,780
demons around they're not shy about it

2640
02:05:02,939 --> 02:05:00,400
don't tell me they want to kill me or

2641
02:05:04,620 --> 02:05:02,949
hurt me they'll say demons here they'll

2642
02:05:07,229 --> 02:05:04,630
say the devil

2643
02:05:09,899 --> 02:05:07,239
so if they're saying sometimes they're

2644
02:05:11,340 --> 02:05:09,909
an angel or they're spirit how is that

2645
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:11,350
tricking me what is the end game for

2646
02:05:16,709 --> 02:05:15,010
them to say there are spirit you know I

2647
02:05:19,890 --> 02:05:16,719
don't see the end game there so I don't

2648
02:05:21,899 --> 02:05:19,900
believe they're all demons are they're

2649
02:05:25,709 --> 02:05:21,909
evil I believe so does some of them lie

2650
02:05:28,459 --> 02:05:25,719
I believe so I can't validate any lies

2651
02:05:30,750 --> 02:05:28,469
they told to me but I can say that

2652
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:30,760
sometimes a spirit will say something

2653
02:05:34,979 --> 02:05:32,290
like I'll say what is your name

2654
02:05:37,379 --> 02:05:34,989
and then I'll here's for example with

2655
02:05:39,209 --> 02:05:37,389
John and then this happened a couple

2656
02:05:41,010 --> 02:05:39,219
times then you hear another spirit in

2657
02:05:45,629 --> 02:05:41,020
the background saying he's lying to you

2658
02:05:47,580 --> 02:05:45,639
but if you know so sometimes I'll say

2659
02:05:51,300 --> 02:05:47,590
what's your name and I'll get a I don't

2660
02:05:53,479 --> 02:05:51,310
know or I don't remember so I'm thinking

2661
02:05:55,740 --> 02:05:53,489
well maybe they just make up names

2662
02:05:57,030 --> 02:05:55,750
because they always hear me asking what

2663
02:05:58,919 --> 02:05:57,040
their name is I tell them what my name

2664
02:06:02,040 --> 02:05:58,929
is so it's hard to say I do feel that

2665
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:02,050
some do lie but as far as my experience

2666
02:06:07,979 --> 02:06:05,170
it's nothing that has harmed me or

2667
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:07,989
caused any problems for me

2668
02:06:12,930 --> 02:06:11,050
the problem is even when you know I ask

2669
02:06:15,990 --> 02:06:12,940
for my father now my father's name isn't

2670
02:06:18,359 --> 02:06:16,000
coming through for so long now I've had

2671
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:18,369
them tell me he walks beside me that he

2672
02:06:24,930 --> 02:06:22,030
helps with the connection all kinds of

2673
02:06:27,209 --> 02:06:24,940
things and you know if I say oh can I

2674
02:06:29,580 --> 02:06:27,219
connect with my father I just put a

2675
02:06:32,130 --> 02:06:29,590
video up three or four videos ago

2676
02:06:33,209 --> 02:06:32,140
where I attempted this and I'm looking

2677
02:06:37,290 --> 02:06:33,219
at it right now and it's interesting

2678
02:06:38,700 --> 02:06:37,300
because it has 666 thumbs up so that's

2679
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:38,710
kind of weird somebody goes thumbs that

2680
02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:42,610
up but um it's I asked for my father you

2681
02:06:46,830 --> 02:06:44,320
know and I say oh we all miss you and

2682
02:06:48,959 --> 02:06:46,840
then out of silence you hear I'll be

2683
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:48,969
fine or I'm fine or something and then I

2684
02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:51,850
felt a little jolt to that antenna and I

2685
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:54,880
just bagged my arm shakes and then they

2686
02:06:59,340 --> 02:06:56,530
continue to tell me he's coming they'll

2687
02:07:02,250 --> 02:06:59,350
say his name and then I sensed someone

2688
02:07:04,530 --> 02:07:02,260
walking right behind the box it's it's

2689
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:04,540
weird I can sense kind of see this thing

2690
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:07,210
so I said somebody's right behind it and

2691
02:07:13,410 --> 02:07:10,930
the message was it's your dad so now I'm

2692
02:07:16,110 --> 02:07:13,420
like is this really true because if true

2693
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:16,120
that's freaking blowing my mind if my

2694
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:18,730
father's spirit is really here right but

2695
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:20,890
they could they could be lying to me so

2696
02:07:25,950 --> 02:07:24,070
I also take that into consideration I'm

2697
02:07:27,689 --> 02:07:25,960
not the type who will listen to that and

2698
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:27,699
say my father talked to me my father was

2699
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:29,890
here I say well it's possible but it's

2700
02:07:35,340 --> 02:07:33,130
also possible that it wasn't so I don't

2701
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:35,350
get too emotionally invested in that

2702
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:39,370
kind of thing but I wish I wish I knew

2703
02:07:44,300 --> 02:07:40,810
the truth you know there's no way to

2704
02:07:46,979 --> 02:07:44,310
really validate that because we can't

2705
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:46,989
physically see them walking around we

2706
02:07:51,630 --> 02:07:49,930
can't have a conversation with them like

2707
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:51,640
we have like me and you are right now

2708
02:07:55,170 --> 02:07:53,620
write comics usually like you mentioned

2709
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:55,180
earlier a little confusing sometimes

2710
02:07:59,760 --> 02:07:56,530
they say weird things

2711
02:08:02,640 --> 02:07:59,770
sometimes there's directors can be so

2712
02:08:05,490 --> 02:08:02,650
it's hard to say you know the fact is

2713
02:08:07,979 --> 02:08:05,500
that if they are what they say they are

2714
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:07,989
energy you know they don't have a brain

2715
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:09,730
they don't have a voice box they don't

2716
02:08:15,570 --> 02:08:12,370
have all these physical features that we

2717
02:08:18,270 --> 02:08:15,580
have as a living human being so how they

2718
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:18,280
speak to us is through energy of some

2719
02:08:23,970 --> 02:08:21,370
sort so maybe it's very hard for them to

2720
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:23,980
do I don't know but yeah I don't know

2721
02:08:30,270 --> 02:08:26,770
it's interesting you remember my true

2722
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:30,280
thing remember the old cartoon with the

2723
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:33,010
two dogs you know hey Bob hey Sam you

2724
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:34,930
know and they're punching in the the

2725
02:08:38,820 --> 02:08:36,730
time clock and they go sit up on the

2726
02:08:40,139 --> 02:08:38,830
edge of the cliff and they're well I got

2727
02:08:42,779 --> 02:08:40,149
I do remember that yeah yeah

2728
02:08:45,149 --> 02:08:42,789
exactly and that's what this kind of

2729
02:08:46,949 --> 02:08:45,159
reminds me of with you when you fire up

2730
02:08:48,839 --> 02:08:46,959
things in the morning you're going over

2731
02:08:51,239 --> 02:08:48,849
and you're firing up the coffee you know

2732
02:08:53,419 --> 02:08:51,249
and and and getting your things going

2733
02:08:56,279 --> 02:08:53,429
have you ever had a spirit you know

2734
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:56,289
immediately go hey man you know good

2735
02:09:01,979 --> 02:08:59,280
morning Steve we've been waiting

2736
02:09:04,259 --> 02:09:01,989
similarly not been not in those exact

2737
02:09:08,909 --> 02:09:04,269
words but they will sometimes say when I

2738
02:09:11,159 --> 02:09:08,919
first turn it on that they're coming

2739
02:09:12,569 --> 02:09:11,169
they're ready that the longer I leave

2740
02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:12,579
you know it usually takes three to four

2741
02:09:17,729 --> 02:09:15,129
minutes maybe five and it seems like

2742
02:09:19,529 --> 02:09:17,739
they start filling today's session they

2743
02:09:20,879 --> 02:09:19,539
said your house is filling like they're

2744
02:09:23,609 --> 02:09:20,889
it's filling up with them because

2745
02:09:24,989 --> 02:09:23,619
they're starting to all come in so yeah

2746
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:24,999
they do sometimes they'll say good

2747
02:09:28,409 --> 02:09:26,530
morning sometimes they'll say good night

2748
02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:28,419
sometimes they'll end it with we love

2749
02:09:33,569 --> 02:09:31,599
you sometimes they'll end it with I want

2750
02:09:36,270 --> 02:09:33,579
to kill you so I mean it's it's the

2751
02:09:38,580 --> 02:09:36,280
whole gamut of responses but they do

2752
02:09:40,889 --> 02:09:38,590
seem to have an intelligence about them

2753
02:09:43,290 --> 02:09:40,899
at least a lot of them not all of them

2754
02:09:46,350 --> 02:09:43,300
so that's another part of the mystery

2755
02:09:49,439 --> 02:09:46,360
you know why are some intelligent and

2756
02:09:50,790 --> 02:09:49,449
direct and why are some you know a lot

2757
02:09:53,609 --> 02:09:50,800
of people say well why do they speak in

2758
02:09:56,069 --> 02:09:53,619
riddles some do you know it's hard to

2759
02:09:58,439 --> 02:09:56,079
say now does that mean you know another

2760
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:58,449
theory is okay if you're alive as a

2761
02:10:04,619 --> 02:10:01,360
human and say you're mentally disabled

2762
02:10:06,569 --> 02:10:04,629
or you have a brain issue when you die

2763
02:10:09,299 --> 02:10:06,579
does that go with you I wouldn't think

2764
02:10:13,229 --> 02:10:09,309
so but you know who knows I don't know

2765
02:10:15,989 --> 02:10:13,239
that that that that is an amazing timing

2766
02:10:18,239 --> 02:10:15,999
too twitter right now that statement of

2767
02:10:23,159 --> 02:10:18,249
yours because of getting some questions

2768
02:10:25,949 --> 02:10:23,169
in here and one of them is I'd I do they

2769
02:10:28,619 --> 02:10:25,959
do they have their clothes on right I

2770
02:10:29,429 --> 02:10:28,629
mean you know what are they wearing away

2771
02:10:31,979 --> 02:10:29,439
literally

2772
02:10:34,109 --> 02:10:31,989
are they wearing what they had on when

2773
02:10:35,009 --> 02:10:34,119
they died you know that's an interesting

2774
02:10:38,969 --> 02:10:35,019
question

2775
02:10:41,069 --> 02:10:38,979
yeah now I'ma ask I can't I can't answer

2776
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:41,079
that with 100% certainty I can tell you

2777
02:10:45,209 --> 02:10:44,079
my experience three years ago or two

2778
02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:45,219
years ago I don't know when it was I

2779
02:10:49,949 --> 02:10:47,260
started I talked about I started to get

2780
02:10:52,199 --> 02:10:49,959
more in tune and I would start seeing

2781
02:10:53,549 --> 02:10:52,209
these things in my mind you know and one

2782
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:53,559
day I

2783
02:10:59,250 --> 02:10:55,530
an older man's voice come through a

2784
02:11:01,949 --> 02:10:59,260
Joe's box or something like that and I

2785
02:11:04,259 --> 02:11:01,959
just saw this vision of this older guy

2786
02:11:07,919 --> 02:11:04,269
wearing jeans suspenders a flannel shirt

2787
02:11:10,109 --> 02:11:07,929
we had a white hair white mustache so I

2788
02:11:12,599 --> 02:11:10,119
said are you wear jeans and suspenders

2789
02:11:15,569 --> 02:11:12,609
and a flannel shirt and the voice said

2790
02:11:18,049 --> 02:11:15,579
yes I am so I was like oh my goodness I

2791
02:11:22,079 --> 02:11:18,059
can't believe that that was validation

2792
02:11:22,739 --> 02:11:22,089
so if that spirit was telling me the

2793
02:11:24,869 --> 02:11:22,749
truth

2794
02:11:26,009 --> 02:11:24,879
I don't know if they're physically

2795
02:11:28,259 --> 02:11:26,019
wearing it because I say they're not

2796
02:11:31,079 --> 02:11:28,269
they're not a physical body but maybe

2797
02:11:34,259 --> 02:11:31,089
they're projecting that image of

2798
02:11:36,569 --> 02:11:34,269
themselves how they were so some of us

2799
02:11:38,429 --> 02:11:36,579
can see or get in tune with them you

2800
02:11:40,799 --> 02:11:38,439
know I'm not really sure but then

2801
02:11:43,500 --> 02:11:40,809
there's other times one time I was

2802
02:11:45,149 --> 02:11:43,510
laying in bed and I felt this extreme

2803
02:11:48,509 --> 02:11:45,159
electricity at like 2:00 in the morning

2804
02:11:50,790 --> 02:11:48,519
it woke me up and I felt like someone

2805
02:11:54,359 --> 02:11:50,800
was pushing me down on the bed and I was

2806
02:11:59,639 --> 02:11:54,369
just electric I look up and I see this

2807
02:12:02,189 --> 02:11:59,649
blue like electric form I physically

2808
02:12:05,129 --> 02:12:02,199
thought it wasn't in my mind hovering

2809
02:12:08,669 --> 02:12:05,139
above the bed right over me and it was

2810
02:12:10,439 --> 02:12:08,679
like not any it wasn't a human shape it

2811
02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:10,449
was just like a weird shape and it was

2812
02:12:16,649 --> 02:12:13,689
hovering so I was like okay I'm awake I

2813
02:12:19,349 --> 02:12:16,659
know I'm awake I'm not dreaming so I

2814
02:12:21,859 --> 02:12:19,359
went to go touch it I stayed calm and

2815
02:12:23,879 --> 02:12:21,869
when I touched it it just like

2816
02:12:25,619 --> 02:12:23,889
disintegrated and vanished and that

2817
02:12:28,259 --> 02:12:25,629
whole feeling that I had over me was

2818
02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:28,269
gone so that's another mystery to me

2819
02:12:33,719 --> 02:12:30,760
like that kind of stuff I don't know if

2820
02:12:36,750 --> 02:12:33,729
that's the form they're in now and

2821
02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:36,760
somehow I was able to see that and they

2822
02:12:41,609 --> 02:12:39,129
can project to us maybe telepathically

2823
02:12:44,759 --> 02:12:41,619
what they were like in life you know

2824
02:12:48,899 --> 02:12:44,769
that's my theory possibly yeah are they

2825
02:12:51,569 --> 02:12:48,909
ever asking for help and if they do are

2826
02:12:55,319 --> 02:12:51,579
you helpless I mean what can you

2827
02:12:57,809 --> 02:12:55,329
possibly do well yeah there was a time

2828
02:13:00,989 --> 02:12:57,819
when all I would I'd say 80% of what

2829
02:13:02,579 --> 02:13:00,999
came through was how help us save us and

2830
02:13:05,669 --> 02:13:02,589
that's when I started reached that's

2831
02:13:07,060 --> 02:13:05,679
when I started researching light

2832
02:13:08,290 --> 02:13:07,070
lightworkers

2833
02:13:11,109 --> 02:13:08,300
they call themselves I believe and

2834
02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:11,119
there's a book I read called when ghosts

2835
02:13:16,060 --> 02:13:13,610
speak and I was fascinated because the

2836
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:16,070
woman as I was reading it her

2837
02:13:22,060 --> 02:13:18,650
experiences were mirroring what I've

2838
02:13:25,390 --> 02:13:22,070
been getting in messages and she says

2839
02:13:26,919 --> 02:13:25,400
she can see them and talk to them and it

2840
02:13:29,530 --> 02:13:26,929
was so spot-on with what I was

2841
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:29,540
experiencing I was I read the book front

2842
02:13:37,359 --> 02:13:33,050
to back I think in a day and she said

2843
02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:37,369
that she gets asked for help and there

2844
02:13:41,260 --> 02:13:39,199
she says they're earthbound spirits and

2845
02:13:44,859 --> 02:13:41,270
she creates the light for them and they

2846
02:13:47,260 --> 02:13:44,869
can walk in and move on to heaven and so

2847
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,270
she describes a technique for trying

2848
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:49,280
this so I started trying this 3-4 years

2849
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:50,960
ago and I would say okay I'm envisioning

2850
02:13:56,919 --> 02:13:54,290
the light and and after time we would

2851
02:13:58,450 --> 02:13:56,929
get some validations of you know I would

2852
02:14:00,729 --> 02:13:58,460
say okay I'm calling for the light for

2853
02:14:02,140 --> 02:14:00,739
you walk into it can you see it and then

2854
02:14:04,390 --> 02:14:02,150
they would start saying we see the light

2855
02:14:07,479 --> 02:14:04,400
and we're going thank you they would

2856
02:14:09,010 --> 02:14:07,489
thank me and again you know you got to

2857
02:14:11,050 --> 02:14:09,020
say well is this real are they telling

2858
02:14:12,399 --> 02:14:11,060
the truth but I went with okay I'm going

2859
02:14:15,970 --> 02:14:12,409
to trust them and they're telling the

2860
02:14:17,620 --> 02:14:15,980
truth so the more I did this that's when

2861
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:17,630
I started getting in trouble with these

2862
02:14:22,930 --> 02:14:20,449
attacks telling me to stop doing that

2863
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:22,940
so that really scared me to death those

2864
02:14:28,660 --> 02:14:26,000
two attacks so I no longer try that but

2865
02:14:29,979 --> 02:14:28,670
does it work I don't know umm I mean

2866
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:29,989
anything is possible

2867
02:14:36,660 --> 02:14:34,400
experienced I always say that now

2868
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:36,670
anything is pop yeah totally totally I

2869
02:14:42,370 --> 02:14:39,530
do they ever project an image of

2870
02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:42,380
themselves to you you know so you could

2871
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:44,719
say you know it's married you ever get

2872
02:14:49,810 --> 02:14:48,530
an image of them projected to you yeah

2873
02:14:51,580 --> 02:14:49,820
that goes back to what we were talking

2874
02:14:53,439 --> 02:14:51,590
about well I think that while they're

2875
02:14:55,780 --> 02:14:53,449
energy they could project that image of

2876
02:14:58,600 --> 02:14:55,790
what they were once like right I've seen

2877
02:15:02,770 --> 02:14:58,610
little I've seen a little girl I've seen

2878
02:15:06,910 --> 02:15:02,780
a tall skinny older woman here I've seen

2879
02:15:08,260 --> 02:15:06,920
a woman with scars all over her face so

2880
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:08,270
yeah that has happened it doesn't happen

2881
02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:10,880
to me all the time it seems to happen on

2882
02:15:14,379 --> 02:15:12,800
the group nights when I when I do those

2883
02:15:17,410 --> 02:15:14,389
group nights and I'll try to describe

2884
02:15:19,629 --> 02:15:17,420
what I see in case anybody watching you

2885
02:15:21,070 --> 02:15:19,639
know maybe it's somebody that they're

2886
02:15:24,220 --> 02:15:21,080
connected to

2887
02:15:27,730 --> 02:15:24,230
so that does happen it's pretty crazy

2888
02:15:29,320 --> 02:15:27,740
how it happens and you know I welcome it

2889
02:15:32,500 --> 02:15:29,330
I think it's it's amazing

2890
02:15:33,820 --> 02:15:32,510
now you described earlier I didn't go

2891
02:15:36,190 --> 02:15:33,830
back to this I'm going to do it now you

2892
02:15:38,740 --> 02:15:36,200
described earlier the copper headband

2893
02:15:40,270 --> 02:15:38,750
and the waistband and and I think you

2894
02:15:44,020 --> 02:15:40,280
saw something on your hand or your thumb

2895
02:15:48,430 --> 02:15:44,030
or your finger but you almost describe

2896
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:48,440
that as a singular event have you done

2897
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:52,490
that again I've done it two or three

2898
02:15:58,060 --> 02:15:56,210
times and two times I became sick over

2899
02:16:00,190 --> 02:15:58,070
the following days after using it and

2900
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:00,200
everybody told me and everybody that

2901
02:16:04,690 --> 02:16:01,850
care to care about me says don't use

2902
02:16:07,780 --> 02:16:04,700
that you know throw it away and I was

2903
02:16:09,820 --> 02:16:07,790
actually making it originally I made it

2904
02:16:13,450 --> 02:16:09,830
to test it and I was going to send it

2905
02:16:15,910 --> 02:16:13,460
off to Nick Groff because he uses a

2906
02:16:17,710 --> 02:16:15,920
wonder box right and I was like you know

2907
02:16:20,020 --> 02:16:17,720
you guys give this a try but then I

2908
02:16:22,030 --> 02:16:20,030
decided I'm not going to even mess with

2909
02:16:23,710 --> 02:16:22,040
it after I became sick you know I don't

2910
02:16:25,660 --> 02:16:23,720
want to cause anybody any problems if

2911
02:16:28,090 --> 02:16:25,670
that was caused you know was it

2912
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:28,100
coincidence maybe but you know these

2913
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:30,170
sessions I've done with that connected

2914
02:16:34,930 --> 02:16:32,930
to me were pretty intense so yeah I

2915
02:16:37,620 --> 02:16:34,940
haven't used it it's actually in my back

2916
02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:37,630
room in the closet so I still have it

2917
02:16:45,370 --> 02:16:41,330
what do you do one thing that you know

2918
02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:45,380
I've seen a lot of criticism about you

2919
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:47,840
and your work and and so then you know

2920
02:16:51,820 --> 02:16:49,250
exactly what I'm talking about you

2921
02:16:52,420 --> 02:16:51,830
probably deal with it daily I do I deal

2922
02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:52,430
with it daily

2923
02:17:00,490 --> 02:16:55,370
yeah how do you answer critics these

2924
02:17:03,070 --> 02:17:00,500
days um I basically don't anymore it was

2925
02:17:07,420 --> 02:17:03,080
no use in you know there's a difference

2926
02:17:09,460 --> 02:17:07,430
between a skeptic which I welcome you

2927
02:17:11,410 --> 02:17:09,470
know I was skeptical at one time in life

2928
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:11,420
I totally understand that you need to

2929
02:17:16,450 --> 02:17:13,730
have an experience for yourself that you

2930
02:17:18,010 --> 02:17:16,460
cannot explain in order to believe in

2931
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:18,020
something like this because you know

2932
02:17:20,830 --> 02:17:19,250
there's a lot of people who just can't

2933
02:17:22,900 --> 02:17:20,840
wrap their head around but this is real

2934
02:17:24,940 --> 02:17:22,910
so that's fine I don't I don't try to

2935
02:17:28,030 --> 02:17:24,950
convert people then there's people who

2936
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:28,040
just go around on YouTube or social

2937
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:30,770
media and make up lies and say oh he's a

2938
02:17:34,660 --> 02:17:33,290
fake he does this he does that when they

2939
02:17:38,589 --> 02:17:34,670
don't even know me and they have

2940
02:17:40,660 --> 02:17:38,599
no clue about what I'm doing um so those

2941
02:17:41,919 --> 02:17:40,670
people you know in in the early days

2942
02:17:43,450 --> 02:17:41,929
that used to bug me and I used to

2943
02:17:46,530 --> 02:17:43,460
interact with them and but that really

2944
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:46,540
lead to nowhere when you try to you know

2945
02:17:52,030 --> 02:17:50,450
maybe evil like that right so I use the

2946
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:52,040
you know people call them haters and all

2947
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:54,650
that which I have plenty of but I just

2948
02:17:58,959 --> 02:17:56,479
ignore them because to me those those

2949
02:18:01,299 --> 02:17:58,969
people the hater type of people if you

2950
02:18:02,830 --> 02:18:01,309
give them attention or mention them you

2951
02:18:04,810 --> 02:18:02,840
know like I have a hundred and fifty

2952
02:18:07,450 --> 02:18:04,820
thousand subscribers almost right now so

2953
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:07,460
if I go on and mention oh this person

2954
02:18:11,709 --> 02:18:09,050
so-and-so is attacking me that's just

2955
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:11,719
going to give them attention and I'm not

2956
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:14,090
going to do that anymore so skeptics I

2957
02:18:17,919 --> 02:18:15,679
will talk to you know and I'll say you

2958
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:17,929
know I even recommend to skeptics who

2959
02:18:22,270 --> 02:18:20,240
email me some of them are a little harsh

2960
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:22,280
in tone I say well you know why don't

2961
02:18:29,770 --> 02:18:26,330
you try I put up plans how to make a two

2962
02:18:32,440 --> 02:18:29,780
hundred dollar mini portal that totally

2963
02:18:34,299 --> 02:18:32,450
enhances apps or radios and it'll you

2964
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:34,309
can make it yourself in ten minutes and

2965
02:18:38,650 --> 02:18:37,130
be out 200 dollars and see for yourself

2966
02:18:40,330 --> 02:18:38,660
I said why don't you experiment with

2967
02:18:42,339 --> 02:18:40,340
yourself use the correct technique oh

2968
02:18:44,620 --> 02:18:42,349
you know give you tips on what to do and

2969
02:18:47,980 --> 02:18:44,630
see how it goes you know and let me know

2970
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:47,990
so I welcome skeptics because as I told

2971
02:18:53,589 --> 02:18:51,650
you I'm welcome to you know try and to

2972
02:18:56,290 --> 02:18:53,599
get this figured out you know it's it's

2973
02:18:58,450 --> 02:18:56,300
all a mystery so all I can tell people

2974
02:19:00,759 --> 02:18:58,460
now is what you mentioned earlier

2975
02:19:02,830 --> 02:19:00,769
something's coming through of

2976
02:19:05,919 --> 02:19:02,840
intelligence that can answer you

2977
02:19:08,410 --> 02:19:05,929
directly when they want to and there's

2978
02:19:11,379 --> 02:19:08,420
no explanation because something like

2979
02:19:14,500 --> 02:19:11,389
what I use the wonder box would say an

2980
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:14,510
app like the SCD one going in or you'll

2981
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:16,010
even let's take away that whole internet

2982
02:19:21,190 --> 02:19:18,160
radio thing and just a bank of sounds

2983
02:19:24,610 --> 02:19:21,200
and you're getting direct answers to

2984
02:19:28,120 --> 02:19:24,620
your questions with your name said how

2985
02:19:31,179 --> 02:19:28,130
do you explain what's going on it's very

2986
02:19:34,379 --> 02:19:31,189
hard I even put one time as I did it

2987
02:19:38,049 --> 02:19:34,389
more for fun I looked up on YouTube a

2988
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:38,059
video it was two hours of cat meows so

2989
02:19:42,459 --> 02:19:39,410
I'm like what happen if I just played

2990
02:19:45,190 --> 02:19:42,469
cat meows into the Wonder box and asked

2991
02:19:48,041 --> 02:19:45,200
questions so I recorded it and I'm like

2992
02:19:51,041 --> 02:19:48,051
okay is anybody here can you use

2993
02:19:53,230 --> 02:19:51,051
these sounds to talk and you can hear

2994
02:19:55,121 --> 02:19:53,240
them trying to form words out of the cat

2995
02:19:57,100 --> 02:19:55,131
meows no and then I think one of them

2996
02:19:59,741 --> 02:19:57,110
was talking about how hard it was it's

2997
02:20:01,390 --> 02:19:59,751
hard and I was like oh my god they're

2998
02:20:04,390 --> 02:20:01,400
actually that's you know that's what led

2999
02:20:07,631 --> 02:20:04,400
to us doing tests we did a test to prove

3000
02:20:09,551 --> 02:20:07,641
that they manipulate audio to speak ROM

3001
02:20:12,341 --> 02:20:09,561
right right right

3002
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:12,351
Matt Matt pain and I we created a little

3003
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:14,690
app just for us where it had something

3004
02:20:20,201 --> 02:20:17,290
like a hundred words programmed in but

3005
02:20:22,211 --> 02:20:20,211
it would play random words but when the

3006
02:20:25,001 --> 02:20:22,221
word would play it would pop up on the

3007
02:20:27,970 --> 02:20:25,011
screen so I know what word is going into

3008
02:20:30,430 --> 02:20:27,980
the box bad problem right so I would say

3009
02:20:33,850 --> 02:20:30,440
okay what is your name and through the

3010
02:20:37,570 --> 02:20:33,860
box it says Roy but on the screen the

3011
02:20:39,491 --> 02:20:37,580
word says tree and then I would ask you

3012
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:39,501
know something I forgot the exact

3013
02:20:42,461 --> 02:20:40,610
questions but I ask another question

3014
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:42,471
like how old are you you might get a

3015
02:20:47,650 --> 02:20:44,570
number reply but the word going in is

3016
02:20:50,951 --> 02:20:47,660
like dog so they're manipulating and

3017
02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:50,961
changing that audio to to answer you and

3018
02:20:57,220 --> 02:20:55,280
how they're doing that is I believe you

3019
02:20:59,831 --> 02:20:57,230
know partly the reverb and some other

3020
02:21:01,600 --> 02:20:59,841
things the energy you know and part the

3021
02:21:03,730 --> 02:21:01,610
operator I think the operator who is

3022
02:21:06,551 --> 02:21:03,740
using a device any device has to have

3023
02:21:10,030 --> 02:21:06,561
some kind of connection or an open mind

3024
02:21:12,241 --> 02:21:10,040
in order to receive communication

3025
02:21:15,161 --> 02:21:12,251
because spirits talk a lot about trust

3026
02:21:17,261 --> 02:21:15,171
you know and they often tell me we trust

3027
02:21:19,121 --> 02:21:17,271
you and I say well I trust you too which

3028
02:21:22,030 --> 02:21:19,131
people say I'm stupid to say that but

3029
02:21:24,220 --> 02:21:22,040
you know I show respect to them I say

3030
02:21:26,381 --> 02:21:24,230
I'm there with love and care we no harm

3031
02:21:28,451 --> 02:21:26,391
I'm here to bridge the gap between our

3032
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:28,461
world and theirs and it seems to work

3033
02:21:34,001 --> 02:21:31,280
for me but yet I can give this probably

3034
02:21:37,930 --> 02:21:34,011
to a hardcore skeptic which I'd like to

3035
02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:37,940
see I don't think they would get as deep

3036
02:21:41,890 --> 02:21:40,160
of communication so like that's why I

3037
02:21:44,801 --> 02:21:41,900
said a box like this is not for

3038
02:21:46,390 --> 02:21:44,811
everybody I feel if you're in tune if

3039
02:21:48,911 --> 02:21:46,400
you're open to it people who do this

3040
02:21:51,041 --> 02:21:48,921
work I think you can get amazing

3041
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:51,051
communication and if you're closed off

3042
02:21:55,570 --> 02:21:53,330
and you're like oh spirits or Fae ghosts

3043
02:21:58,241 --> 02:21:55,580
are not real then it might not happen

3044
02:21:59,951 --> 02:21:58,251
for you but with that said you know what

3045
02:22:02,051 --> 02:21:59,961
got me down this road is me trying to

3046
02:22:07,091 --> 02:22:02,061
[\h__\h] a psb7 so who knows

3047
02:22:09,011 --> 02:22:07,101
Yeah right right what was it scares the

3048
02:22:12,011 --> 02:22:09,021
crap out of me to hear you describe it

3049
02:22:15,551 --> 02:22:12,021
like that though well because it's

3050
02:22:17,230 --> 02:22:15,561
obvious that it's again it's not

3051
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:17,240
somebody messing with you I'm talking

3052
02:22:22,211 --> 02:22:18,650
about a real person

3053
02:22:24,970 --> 02:22:22,221
that is hearing you talk in in in

3054
02:22:27,370 --> 02:22:24,980
Boulder Colorado somehow and is is

3055
02:22:30,251 --> 02:22:27,380
speaking no this is not what's going on

3056
02:22:32,530 --> 02:22:30,261
there is no communication is not going

3057
02:22:34,270 --> 02:22:32,540
Hospital right right right

3058
02:22:36,251 --> 02:22:34,280
do you ever are you going to go to

3059
02:22:39,330 --> 02:22:36,261
contact in the desert for example do you

3060
02:22:43,450 --> 02:22:39,340
ever go out to a different conferences

3061
02:22:45,490 --> 02:22:43,460
um like paranormal conferences yeah yeah

3062
02:22:47,261 --> 02:22:45,500
but not you know the funny things I've

3063
02:22:51,011 --> 02:22:47,271
never been to one I was just recently

3064
02:22:52,961 --> 02:22:51,021
invited to a couple but I'd love to

3065
02:22:56,051 --> 02:22:52,971
attend I'd love to man you need to come

3066
02:22:58,751 --> 02:22:56,061
out of contact in the desert and bring a

3067
02:23:00,671 --> 02:22:58,761
wonder box with you you need to come out

3068
02:23:02,530 --> 02:23:00,681
and look out with us all right you know

3069
02:23:04,961 --> 02:23:02,540
what Rita you need to talk to Steven off

3070
02:23:06,910 --> 02:23:04,971
the air if you want to come out it's a

3071
02:23:08,980 --> 02:23:06,920
we'll talk to you about it off the air

3072
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:08,990
but I would love definitely because we

3073
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:10,730
have our audience you know we get

3074
02:23:15,881 --> 02:23:12,800
together there's a big conference coming

3075
02:23:18,520 --> 02:23:15,891
up in a few weeks here at Southern

3076
02:23:21,761 --> 02:23:18,530
California but but if you showed up with

3077
02:23:23,711 --> 02:23:21,771
that and one of our get-togethers I

3078
02:23:27,881 --> 02:23:23,721
think it would be a fascinating night

3079
02:23:30,310 --> 02:23:27,891
and it would be really cool to to see

3080
02:23:33,551 --> 02:23:30,320
this in action in in real time I'm

3081
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:33,561
fascinated I love it yeah I would love

3082
02:23:36,970 --> 02:23:35,090
to get it you know I could drive there

3083
02:23:38,501 --> 02:23:36,980
I'm in Phoenix so you know I don't have

3084
02:23:40,180 --> 02:23:38,511
to leave all right we'll talk about it

3085
02:23:44,881 --> 02:23:40,190
on the air you should see you should see

3086
02:23:50,140 --> 02:23:44,891
Twitter right now yes yes yes yes but

3087
02:23:52,930 --> 02:23:50,150
now one last question have you ever had

3088
02:23:56,381 --> 02:23:52,940
a dead day is there a day when the

3089
02:24:00,220 --> 02:23:56,391
Spears just aren't connecting or or

3090
02:24:02,921 --> 02:24:00,230
there or do they have a bad day that's a

3091
02:24:05,020 --> 02:24:02,931
good question because you know when I

3092
02:24:06,881 --> 02:24:05,030
first started I'd have days where I was

3093
02:24:08,591 --> 02:24:06,891
getting amazing communication then the

3094
02:24:10,450 --> 02:24:08,601
next day I turn it on and I get nothing

3095
02:24:12,761 --> 02:24:10,460
and I did like what what happened you

3096
02:24:15,640 --> 02:24:12,771
know as me sometimes I'd go to three

3097
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:15,650
days and then as of about a year ago

3098
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:20,000
I'd say I've gone now over a year now I

3099
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:21,530
don't do them everyday but at least

3100
02:24:27,940 --> 02:24:24,890
three or four times a week so over a

3101
02:24:30,310 --> 02:24:27,950
year now I've never not had a direct

3102
02:24:32,920 --> 02:24:30,320
communication of some sort some days

3103
02:24:35,350 --> 02:24:32,930
it's not as direct like I told you about

3104
02:24:37,511 --> 02:24:35,360
the the session with the woman in the

3105
02:24:39,700 --> 02:24:37,521
bath and tuberculosis that was amazing

3106
02:24:41,370 --> 02:24:39,710
to me and then today the one I uploaded

3107
02:24:43,990 --> 02:24:41,380
there was a little more it was a little

3108
02:24:46,900 --> 02:24:44,000
disconnected and it wasn't as connected

3109
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:46,910
as usual but I still had a lot of

3110
02:24:52,450 --> 02:24:50,930
imitations so there are days I think

3111
02:24:55,990 --> 02:24:52,460
that there's times the days that work

3112
02:24:59,530 --> 02:24:56,000
better I think that the more the

3113
02:25:01,720 --> 02:24:59,540
operator using the device focuses the

3114
02:25:05,110 --> 02:25:01,730
better that it is I feel if I'm in a

3115
02:25:07,540 --> 02:25:05,120
room that's quiet dim the lights and I

3116
02:25:09,070 --> 02:25:07,550
really focus and try to envision who's

3117
02:25:11,650 --> 02:25:09,080
around me I think it gets really good

3118
02:25:14,290 --> 02:25:11,660
and if I'm just turning it on sometimes

3119
02:25:16,210 --> 02:25:14,300
for fun or somebody's over then it's not

3120
02:25:18,460 --> 02:25:16,220
as good but yeah there's ups and downs

3121
02:25:22,330 --> 02:25:18,470
you know but lately it's been pretty

3122
02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:22,340
solid where can everybody get a hold of

3123
02:25:25,841 --> 02:25:24,170
you maybe even talk about getting a

3124
02:25:29,710 --> 02:25:25,851
wonder box where it's the best way to

3125
02:25:32,890 --> 02:25:29,720
communicate with you best places are my

3126
02:25:34,330 --> 02:25:32,900
website Hough paranormal comm if you're

3127
02:25:36,280 --> 02:25:34,340
interested there's articles there

3128
02:25:37,990 --> 02:25:36,290
there's blog posts there there's photo

3129
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:38,000
evidence there that I've taken over the

3130
02:25:43,060 --> 02:25:41,210
years and in the menu there's info on

3131
02:25:45,460 --> 02:25:43,070
the wonder box and then there's my

3132
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:45,470
youtube channel cuffed paranormal on

3133
02:25:52,180 --> 02:25:49,010
YouTube where I have like 440 videos now

3134
02:25:54,940 --> 02:25:52,190
spanning several years where you can see

3135
02:25:57,130 --> 02:25:54,950
the progress made from the early you

3136
02:25:59,680 --> 02:25:57,140
know static filled boxes to today and

3137
02:26:02,440 --> 02:25:59,690
then finally on Facebook at healthcare

3138
02:26:05,051 --> 02:26:02,450
normal you know I post there every day

3139
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:05,061
as well fascinating conversation tonight

3140
02:26:10,540 --> 02:26:07,210
Steve go go do some pretty questionable

3141
02:26:13,720 --> 02:26:10,550
oohed Lee and what if we get you out to

3142
02:26:16,450 --> 02:26:13,730
contact in the desert are this what is

3143
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:16,460
the wonder box intimidated by you know a

3144
02:26:20,890 --> 02:26:19,040
crowd you know maybe what I'm saying you

3145
02:26:23,020 --> 02:26:20,900
know 10 20 30 people in the room does

3146
02:26:25,030 --> 02:26:23,030
that affect anything I don't think I

3147
02:26:26,980 --> 02:26:25,040
don't think so because we've used it in

3148
02:26:28,990 --> 02:26:26,990
to stone at the old Undertaker's

3149
02:26:29,349 --> 02:26:29,000
building which is now run by sister

3150
02:26:31,510 --> 02:26:29,359
Pierre

3151
02:26:34,059 --> 02:26:31,520
normal and they do tours of the building

3152
02:26:36,849 --> 02:26:34,069
and I brought the wonder box there two

3153
02:26:40,059 --> 02:26:36,859
or three times or twice I think and the

3154
02:26:42,010 --> 02:26:40,069
last time it was so connected the group

3155
02:26:43,479 --> 02:26:42,020
of strangers who I didn't even know they

3156
02:26:46,210 --> 02:26:43,489
didn't know I was coming

3157
02:26:48,909 --> 02:26:46,220
they were playing poker and they have

3158
02:26:50,830 --> 02:26:48,919
signed a spirit to each player so when

3159
02:26:52,929 --> 02:26:50,840
it was the turn for one player they'd

3160
02:26:55,300 --> 02:26:52,939
ask their spirit should I you know

3161
02:26:57,969 --> 02:26:55,310
should I discard any of these cards and

3162
02:26:59,949 --> 02:26:57,979
they would say a benign shot on

3163
02:27:03,250 --> 02:26:59,959
appearance we're absolutely playing

3164
02:27:06,399 --> 02:27:03,260
poker and everybody was freaking out

3165
02:27:09,309 --> 02:27:06,409
like fascinated and you know when when

3166
02:27:11,290 --> 02:27:09,319
the one person one you know the spirit

3167
02:27:13,659 --> 02:27:11,300
shouted something through the box all

3168
02:27:16,210 --> 02:27:13,669
excited that they won it was crazy but

3169
02:27:18,909 --> 02:27:16,220
that's a really active spot too so you

3170
02:27:20,590 --> 02:27:18,919
know there you go thank you so much for

3171
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:20,600
the conversation Steve and everybody

3172
02:27:25,960 --> 02:27:23,090
thank you thank you go to as a youtube

3173
02:27:29,139 --> 02:27:25,970
channel and and go down that rabbit hole

3174
02:27:30,909 --> 02:27:29,149
and you can thank me later thank you so

3175
02:27:32,380 --> 02:27:30,919
much Steve and have a great rest of your

3176
02:27:34,359 --> 02:27:32,390
evening my friend great conference you

3177
02:27:37,330 --> 02:27:34,369
too you too Jimmy thank you thank you

3178
02:27:40,479 --> 02:27:37,340
Steve and huff everybody again it is

3179
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:40,489
Steve Huff photos.com Huff paranormal

3180
02:27:45,819 --> 02:27:43,520
comm if you go over to our website all

3181
02:27:48,369 --> 02:27:45,829
the links are right there now you need

3182
02:27:50,969 --> 02:27:48,379
to after the show tonight go to bed

3183
02:27:53,559 --> 02:27:50,979
tonight watching one of his videos

3184
02:27:54,010 --> 02:27:53,569
guaranteed good time thank you so much

3185
02:27:55,689 --> 02:27:54,020
Steve

3186
02:27:57,909 --> 02:27:55,699
this is fade to black I'll open up the

3187
02:27:59,380 --> 02:27:57,919
phone lines it is fate or night I do

3188
02:28:02,750 --> 02:27:59,390
want to talk to you all open up the

3189
02:28:15,700 --> 02:28:02,760
phone lines when I get back stay with us

3190
02:28:21,650 --> 02:28:18,740
go Viveca box hair and you are listening

3191
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:21,660
to my boy Jimmy church jimmy church

3192
02:28:31,140 --> 02:28:27,110
radio.com this my popular opinion

3193
02:28:35,350 --> 02:28:31,150
reading a book will not make you smarter

3194
02:28:40,700 --> 02:28:38,060
balance of nature's fruits and veggies I

3195
02:28:42,591 --> 02:28:40,710
had gout in both my knees and it's gone

3196
02:28:44,450 --> 02:28:42,601
I'm pretty stupid I should have ordered

3197
02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:44,460
it like you know 15 years ago everything

3198
02:28:48,500 --> 02:28:46,650
I ever gotten my it's the most effective

3199
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:48,510
product that I've ever bought in my life

3200
02:28:53,690 --> 02:28:51,120
he had eczema on his hand and it cracked

3201
02:28:55,850 --> 02:28:53,700
in a cracked four years he did anything

3202
02:28:58,671 --> 02:28:55,860
from dr. every cream everything and

3203
02:29:00,860 --> 02:28:58,681
three months on the veggies and fruit it

3204
02:29:02,810 --> 02:29:00,870
was gone they're just awesome they keep

3205
02:29:04,490 --> 02:29:02,820
asking me what am i doing I told them

3206
02:29:06,440 --> 02:29:04,500
what I did with my cholesterol I had the

3207
02:29:09,500 --> 02:29:06,450
blood test right and it went down a

3208
02:29:12,410 --> 02:29:09,510
hundred points to 62 now it's 162

3209
02:29:14,511 --> 02:29:12,420
everything is just perfect call now to

3210
02:29:18,740 --> 02:29:14,521
find out how to get your free month

3211
02:29:21,620 --> 02:29:18,750
supply a balance of nature call 802 for

3212
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3213
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hundred two four six eight seven fifty

3214
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one call now 800 two four six eight 750

3215
02:29:36,830 --> 02:29:32,010
one or go online to balance of nature

3216
02:29:38,540 --> 02:29:36,840
calm use promo code TSL wood odors mold

3217
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and mildew describe your basement or

3218
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:40,230
crawlspace it doesn't have to be that

3219
02:29:42,230 --> 02:29:40,650
way

3220
02:29:44,210 --> 02:29:42,240
transform them into a fresh healthy

3221
02:29:46,761 --> 02:29:44,220
usable one with a technologically

3222
02:29:48,710 --> 02:29:46,771
advanced wave moisture control units the

3223
02:29:50,841 --> 02:29:48,720
computerized operation maximizes

3224
02:29:52,940 --> 02:29:50,851
moisture control and also expels harmful

3225
02:29:55,100 --> 02:29:52,950
radon combustion gases and numerous

3226
02:29:56,900 --> 02:29:55,110
other pollutants dehumidifiers are old

3227
02:29:59,390 --> 02:29:56,910
technology that do nothing for air

3228
02:30:01,730 --> 02:29:59,400
quality and waste energy wave units are

3229
02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:01,740
intelligent self monitoring do not need

3230
02:30:05,450 --> 02:30:03,450
maintenance and will save you hundreds

3231
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:05,460
in electricity wave units are still

3232
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:07,410
running effectively over 15 years

3233
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:09,210
they've been tested and installed in

3234
02:30:13,341 --> 02:30:11,130
public and military housing and by

3235
02:30:15,320 --> 02:30:13,351
property managers nationwide buy a unit

3236
02:30:16,820 --> 02:30:15,330
now and if your home is not fresher and

3237
02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:16,830
dryer you can return it for a full

3238
02:30:21,860 --> 02:30:18,960
refund for up to 12 months what have you

3239
02:30:22,581 --> 02:30:21,870
got to lose call now 188 six one eight

3240
02:30:25,341 --> 02:30:22,591
wave

3241
02:30:25,581 --> 02:30:25,351
one eight eight eight six one eight WAV

3242
02:32:18,791 --> 02:30:25,591
e

3243
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:18,801
I'm talking about that's what I'm

3244
02:32:22,180 --> 02:32:20,030
talking about

3245
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:22,190
Steven huff Steve hah thank you so much

3246
02:32:29,770 --> 02:32:25,490
hug paranormal puff paranormal comm go

3247
02:32:32,921 --> 02:32:29,780
to his YouTube channel it was a good

3248
02:32:34,541 --> 02:32:32,931
save as really buddy but this is a few

3249
02:32:36,940 --> 02:32:34,551
months ago we're here in the bunker

3250
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:36,950
working and Reed is down the hall in her

3251
02:32:44,591 --> 02:32:41,210
studio and I was going through and

3252
02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:44,601
listening to Steve's videos while I was

3253
02:32:49,810 --> 02:32:47,210
working and I'm yelling down the hall

3254
02:32:53,261 --> 02:32:49,820
got to go to Steve's website just click

3255
02:32:57,070 --> 02:32:53,271
on a video just click on one coffee

3256
02:32:59,850 --> 02:32:57,080
coffee with spirits just amazing so do

3257
02:33:02,350 --> 02:32:59,860
it tonight after the show just go and

3258
02:33:03,970 --> 02:33:02,360
get to his YouTube channel and pick out

3259
02:33:07,690 --> 02:33:03,980
a couple of things turn down the lights

3260
02:33:09,791 --> 02:33:07,700
and and check that out it will it will

3261
02:33:11,860 --> 02:33:09,801
it was it's impressive

3262
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:11,870
it will really flip you out there's

3263
02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:15,290
something going on there I I can't put

3264
02:33:20,011 --> 02:33:17,210
my finger on it I've talked about it so

3265
02:33:26,890 --> 02:33:20,021
much that there's something with

3266
02:33:30,581 --> 02:33:26,900
electronics and the ability to have the

3267
02:33:32,881 --> 02:33:30,591
spirit or you know whatever it is on the

3268
02:33:35,860 --> 02:33:32,891
other side that's that's out there

3269
02:33:38,680 --> 02:33:35,870
because it's electronic you know there's

3270
02:33:40,961 --> 02:33:38,690
there's something there that that

3271
02:33:43,511 --> 02:33:40,971
connects electronically that's how you

3272
02:33:45,310 --> 02:33:43,521
know EVPs are recorded and I get that

3273
02:33:47,600 --> 02:33:45,320
but when you take it to the next level

3274
02:33:49,791 --> 02:33:47,610
what Steve is doing which is in real

3275
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:49,801
time and the p7 and the other spear

3276
02:33:55,820 --> 02:33:53,330
boxes out there I get that but very

3277
02:33:58,970 --> 02:33:55,830
irritating and to me it's unlistenable

3278
02:34:02,140 --> 02:33:58,980
it's it's fun and in short bursts but

3279
02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:02,150
what Steve does this is a real-time

3280
02:34:08,381 --> 02:34:05,730
communication and conversation that is

3281
02:34:12,770 --> 02:34:08,391
going down they're just absolutely

3282
02:34:13,671 --> 02:34:12,780
fascinating videos to watch so do go and

3283
02:34:16,280 --> 02:34:13,681
check it out

3284
02:34:19,310 --> 02:34:16,290
it is fate or night it is Thursday night

3285
02:34:21,230 --> 02:34:19,320
I know that we were very limited on time

3286
02:34:23,390 --> 02:34:21,240
tonight to have Steve come in and we had

3287
02:34:25,610 --> 02:34:23,400
a Greg house earlier and and Jon

3288
02:34:28,251 --> 02:34:25,620
Rappoport and there wasn't any time for

3289
02:34:30,381 --> 02:34:28,261
phone calls so I'll do that now okay

3290
02:34:32,900 --> 02:34:30,391
it's Thursday night three to three eight

3291
02:34:34,461 --> 02:34:32,910
two five five zero four or five I'll go

3292
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:34,471
ahead and open up the phone lines couple

3293
02:34:41,511 --> 02:34:36,000
of quick phone calls before we get out

3294
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:41,521
of here I was and I still am very upset

3295
02:34:50,410 --> 02:34:44,160
about what is going on with a Barrett

3296
02:34:53,620 --> 02:34:50,420
Brown and I know that you know for me it

3297
02:34:57,200 --> 02:34:53,630
comes down to an emotional thing because

3298
02:35:00,291 --> 02:34:57,210
journalism and and writing and the way

3299
02:35:02,390 --> 02:35:00,301
that he was convicted and he took it on

3300
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:02,400
the chin and and went to prison for

3301
02:35:07,251 --> 02:35:04,110
something that was absolutely one

3302
02:35:08,930 --> 02:35:07,261
hundred-percent ridiculous and for him

3303
02:35:12,860 --> 02:35:08,940
to turn around and get arrested today

3304
02:35:16,011 --> 02:35:12,870
he's just a journalist it is just so

3305
02:35:18,950 --> 02:35:16,021
irritating for me I'm just I'm beside

3306
02:35:22,131 --> 02:35:18,960
myself and I'm going to stay vocal about

3307
02:35:24,950 --> 02:35:22,141
this and I always have been but this is

3308
02:35:26,751 --> 02:35:24,960
something that just cannot go away but

3309
02:35:30,110 --> 02:35:26,761
uh let's go to the phones hi you're live

3310
02:35:32,331 --> 02:35:30,120
on paid to block who's calling hey Jimmy

3311
02:35:34,070 --> 02:35:32,341
is Brent from prosper Texas how are you

3312
02:35:38,511 --> 02:35:34,080
hey Brent what do you think about that

3313
02:35:42,140 --> 02:35:38,521
show it's fantastic man how'd you have a

3314
02:35:46,881 --> 02:35:42,150
question of with a ghost talk why don't

3315
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:46,891
we ever see Mike goes from further back

3316
02:35:57,591 --> 02:35:53,130
like say caveman days or whatever now

3317
02:36:00,770 --> 02:35:57,601
it's a good question that's a talked to

3318
02:36:04,881 --> 02:36:00,780
people about this before right that

3319
02:36:08,211 --> 02:36:04,891
we you know we've been here for for

3320
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:08,221
millions of years right and certainly

3321
02:36:14,180 --> 02:36:11,040
homo sapiens sapiens been on the planet

3322
02:36:16,190 --> 02:36:14,190
for a you know 150 thousand years right

3323
02:36:16,580 --> 02:36:16,200
the version of you and I that is here

3324
02:36:19,610 --> 02:36:16,590
now

3325
02:36:22,700 --> 02:36:19,620
why don't we communicate well okay

3326
02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:22,710
there's language issues that's the first

3327
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:28,800
thing do spirits are retracting only

3328
02:36:33,650 --> 02:36:31,200
spirits that speak English because they

3329
02:36:36,830 --> 02:36:33,660
can understand what we are saying you

3330
02:36:39,890 --> 02:36:36,840
know what I mean as opposed to a Russian

3331
02:36:44,360 --> 02:36:39,900
ghost right you know there's there's

3332
02:36:48,410 --> 02:36:44,370
that or somebody that died in ancient

3333
02:36:50,270 --> 02:36:48,420
Egypt or or or you know and I hear you I

3334
02:36:52,220 --> 02:36:50,280
totally understand that's a good

3335
02:36:54,591 --> 02:36:52,230
question that I think we should ask some

3336
02:36:58,390 --> 02:36:54,601
of these professionals you know what

3337
02:37:02,001 --> 02:36:58,400
would it let me ask you this bright the

3338
02:37:06,591 --> 02:37:02,011
the caveman ghost right the one that

3339
02:37:10,520 --> 02:37:06,601
doesn't have a language what would how

3340
02:37:13,251 --> 02:37:10,530
would he communicate he would see you or

3341
02:37:15,950 --> 02:37:13,261
I with the spirit box or the wonder box

3342
02:37:17,980 --> 02:37:15,960
right how would he turn around and

3343
02:37:22,370 --> 02:37:17,990
communicate with us what do you think

3344
02:37:25,490 --> 02:37:22,380
well I don't know I mean I'm not saying

3345
02:37:27,950 --> 02:37:25,500
even even with spirit box or ear that I

3346
02:37:31,370 --> 02:37:27,960
mean just seeing one you don't see it

3347
02:37:33,921 --> 02:37:31,380
you don't hear about it oh I got you

3348
02:37:40,580 --> 02:37:33,931
right right right right

3349
02:37:44,060 --> 02:37:40,590
well we do have a different period

3350
02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:44,070
clothing ghosts you know I've had you

3351
02:37:49,180 --> 02:37:45,570
know many guests on the show that have

3352
02:37:52,580 --> 02:37:49,190
talked about that you know civil war

3353
02:37:55,341 --> 02:37:52,590
situations or world war one of you know

3354
02:37:58,341 --> 02:37:55,351
ghosts but that's that's interesting why

3355
02:38:02,810 --> 02:37:58,351
we don't see somebody wearing animal

3356
02:38:04,551 --> 02:38:02,820
skins and carrying a club right well it

3357
02:38:06,921 --> 02:38:04,561
seems like it always goes back to about

3358
02:38:10,671 --> 02:38:06,931
the Civil War or maybe every once awhile

3359
02:38:12,830 --> 02:38:10,681
you hear about Revolutionary War but you

3360
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:12,840
don't hear anything before that well

3361
02:38:18,420 --> 02:38:14,710
that's not true I guess you hear

3362
02:38:22,110 --> 02:38:18,430
or about a Greek soldiers or Roman

3363
02:38:24,060 --> 02:38:22,120
soldiers but past that yeah yeah that's

3364
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:24,070
very interesting why do you think that

3365
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:28,479
is why oh god yeah I don't eat that you

3366
02:38:35,010 --> 02:38:31,930
know that hey hey hey hey hey I'm just

3367
02:38:40,020 --> 02:38:35,020
like you man just like you that's a

3368
02:38:42,810 --> 02:38:40,030
great great question and I've got to

3369
02:38:43,950 --> 02:38:42,820
remember that I've got white man why

3370
02:38:46,500 --> 02:38:43,960
didn't you send me an email

3371
02:38:49,950 --> 02:38:46,510
why couldn't you test me this question

3372
02:38:52,350 --> 02:38:49,960
tonight I don't know maybe I was

3373
02:38:53,670 --> 02:38:52,360
slacking hey have a great weekend

3374
02:38:58,890 --> 02:38:53,680
yeah you too Bren thank you so much

3375
02:39:02,910 --> 02:38:58,900
great but quickly you know uh I got to

3376
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:02,920
hear the answer to that I do I've got to

3377
02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:04,810
hear the answer that way that's a that's

3378
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:07,210
a really really good point of a low

3379
02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:10,090
point and how would you know how would

3380
02:39:19,170 --> 02:39:16,630
it be grunting right that man and Steve

3381
02:39:22,020 --> 02:39:19,180
is gone that's a great question

3382
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:22,030
I wonder if he's ever had a spirit that

3383
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:26,110
was grunting or trying to communicate in

3384
02:39:35,010 --> 02:39:33,520
in neanderthal sock no no wow wow what a

3385
02:39:36,620 --> 02:39:35,020
great question thank you for that okay

3386
02:39:39,780 --> 02:39:36,630
three two three eight to five five zero

3387
02:39:43,219 --> 02:39:39,790
four or five here's some of the news

3388
02:39:46,670 --> 02:39:43,229
that you know absolutely nothing about

3389
02:39:50,719 --> 02:39:46,680
Russian President Vladimir Putin and

3390
02:39:54,510 --> 02:39:50,729
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on

3391
02:39:56,580 --> 02:39:54,520
Thursday today called on North Korea and

3392
02:39:58,740 --> 02:39:56,590
other countries to avoid behavior or

3393
02:40:01,680 --> 02:39:58,750
rhetoric that could increase tensions

3394
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:01,690
around Pyongyang's nuclear program they

3395
02:40:06,450 --> 02:40:03,610
were speaking at a news conference in

3396
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:06,460
Moscow after holding talks Putin and Abe

3397
02:40:11,730 --> 02:40:08,560
said that they had agreed to cooperate

3398
02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:11,740
closely to help try to defuse the

3399
02:40:15,900 --> 02:40:13,720
tensions around the secretive asian

3400
02:40:18,900 --> 02:40:15,910
state that both wanted to see a

3401
02:40:23,550 --> 02:40:18,910
resumption of six-party international

3402
02:40:26,040 --> 02:40:23,560
talks with North Korea very interesting

3403
02:40:28,081 --> 02:40:26,050
they and things have been ratcheted up

3404
02:40:32,211 --> 02:40:28,091
my friends

3405
02:40:36,301 --> 02:40:32,221
have definitely pushed this to the brink

3406
02:40:41,941 --> 02:40:36,311
I'll say it one more time I just don't

3407
02:40:44,821 --> 02:40:41,951
see things kicking off there Kim Kim

3408
02:40:47,841 --> 02:40:44,831
Jeong fatty fat has got a good thing

3409
02:40:51,180 --> 02:40:47,851
going there for himself right he's not

3410
02:40:54,781 --> 02:40:51,190
going to want to mess that up

3411
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:54,791
I had read think it was yesterday or the

3412
02:40:57,841 --> 02:40:56,110
day before you know they're trying to

3413
02:41:00,061 --> 02:40:57,851
clamp down on the way he spends his

3414
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:00,071
money and and who he's getting so I

3415
02:41:09,331 --> 02:41:04,690
think he's got two yachts on order like

3416
02:41:13,081 --> 02:41:09,341
a real boats like 150 foot crazy things

3417
02:41:15,961 --> 02:41:13,091
and maybe I read it wrong maybe I'm

3418
02:41:20,850 --> 02:41:15,971
remembering it wrong but they've liked

3419
02:41:23,041 --> 02:41:20,860
it stop delivery of these two boats yeah

3420
02:41:26,491 --> 02:41:23,051
Josie just said maybe all of the ancient

3421
02:41:28,951 --> 02:41:26,501
spirits reincarnated long ago and I that

3422
02:41:31,911 --> 02:41:28,961
thought right there Josie that's a great

3423
02:41:35,131 --> 02:41:31,921
point totally popped into my head that

3424
02:41:39,091 --> 02:41:35,141
just maybe the cycles have gone through

3425
02:41:42,781 --> 02:41:39,101
with spirits right and those that are

3426
02:41:46,100 --> 02:41:42,791
out there are our recent right there

3427
02:41:49,441 --> 02:41:46,110
that the process has gone through

3428
02:41:49,861 --> 02:41:49,451
Stephen also brought up a very very good

3429
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:49,871
point

3430
02:41:56,311 --> 02:41:53,230
tonight about is this like purgatory are

3431
02:41:58,801 --> 02:41:56,321
they in between heaven and hell and

3432
02:42:01,291 --> 02:41:58,811
they're like in a holding pattern it

3433
02:42:04,861 --> 02:42:01,301
could be just that that we're looking at

3434
02:42:07,411 --> 02:42:04,871
that one phase he brought up another

3435
02:42:09,621 --> 02:42:07,421
point and let's not forget about this

3436
02:42:13,651 --> 02:42:09,631
when I asked him if if he had developed

3437
02:42:17,131 --> 02:42:13,661
relationships right well and he said

3438
02:42:18,481 --> 02:42:17,141
that he had but I I think he also said

3439
02:42:22,021 --> 02:42:18,491
that they weren't ongoing that they've

3440
02:42:25,890 --> 02:42:22,031
all ended so are these spirits you know

3441
02:42:29,461 --> 02:42:25,900
moving on had they moved on right it's

3442
02:42:31,491 --> 02:42:29,471
not like he has communicated with

3443
02:42:34,381 --> 02:42:31,501
anybody I think he alluded to this

3444
02:42:37,321 --> 02:42:34,391
somebody that's a spirit that's you know

3445
02:42:39,550 --> 02:42:37,331
what man I've been here for 40 years

3446
02:42:42,700 --> 02:42:39,560
and I don't know what's going on

3447
02:42:43,240 --> 02:42:42,710
you know there's that that point too as

3448
02:42:44,980 --> 02:42:43,250
well

3449
02:42:47,020 --> 02:42:44,990
John Porter just said are there any

3450
02:42:51,160 --> 02:42:47,030
spirit communication before electricity

3451
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:51,170
get them again great point great point

3452
02:42:59,410 --> 02:42:55,520
it sounded like to me uh with Stephen

3453
02:43:04,590 --> 02:42:59,420
now is this when you go and watch his

3454
02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:04,600
videos the voices that you hear to me

3455
02:43:13,300 --> 02:43:11,690
feel current feeling modern you

3456
02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:13,310
understand what I'm saying you have to

3457
02:43:20,320 --> 02:43:17,450
go and watch the videos it doesn't the

3458
02:43:23,710 --> 02:43:20,330
accents aren't out of place you know

3459
02:43:26,140 --> 02:43:23,720
that it feels today it feels current you

3460
02:43:28,960 --> 02:43:26,150
need to really go and and check out his

3461
02:43:30,280 --> 02:43:28,970
youtube channel absolutely and and let

3462
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:30,290
me know what you think should be an

3463
02:43:36,640 --> 02:43:32,810
email and contact Stephen as well I

3464
02:43:41,220 --> 02:43:36,650
would like to ask to speak to Nelson

3465
02:43:45,880 --> 02:43:41,230
Mandela yes I don't write absolutely

3466
02:43:47,740 --> 02:43:45,890
okay where am i oh oh I didn't get an

3467
02:43:50,440 --> 02:43:47,750
update on this let me see if I can let

3468
02:43:53,070 --> 02:43:50,450
me move this I want to get an update on

3469
02:44:00,090 --> 02:43:53,080
something before I talk about this next

3470
02:44:03,490 --> 02:44:00,100
okay yep it happened okay there you go

3471
02:44:07,660 --> 02:44:03,500
Arkansas is executed is fourth inmate in

3472
02:44:10,750 --> 02:44:07,670
a week tonight 18 years ago kenneth

3473
02:44:14,080 --> 02:44:10,760
williams had escaped from an arkansas

3474
02:44:15,580 --> 02:44:14,090
prison and killed Cecil Boren at his

3475
02:44:16,440 --> 02:44:15,590
home just a couple of miles away from

3476
02:44:20,470 --> 02:44:16,450
the prison

3477
02:44:24,880 --> 02:44:20,480
Williams was executed tonight at the

3478
02:44:27,190 --> 02:44:24,890
same prison it looks like well obviously

3479
02:44:32,410 --> 02:44:27,200
all of his final court appeals had

3480
02:44:35,740 --> 02:44:32,420
failed and he was executed this is again

3481
02:44:38,830 --> 02:44:35,750
it's the fourth person that Arkansas is

3482
02:44:41,740 --> 02:44:38,840
executed in the last eight days

3483
02:44:44,440 --> 02:44:41,750
it's a compressed timeline here that

3484
02:44:47,290 --> 02:44:44,450
they're trying to get all of these out

3485
02:44:50,050 --> 02:44:47,300
of the way all of these executions out

3486
02:44:51,220 --> 02:44:50,060
of the way because the lethal injection

3487
02:44:54,940 --> 02:44:51,230
drugs

3488
02:44:57,790 --> 02:44:54,950
uh that are use are expiring and the

3489
02:45:02,440 --> 02:44:57,800
suppliers of these drugs don't want

3490
02:45:05,470 --> 02:45:02,450
their products used in executions it's

3491
02:45:09,580 --> 02:45:05,480
absolutely not what Arkansas is doing

3492
02:45:13,780 --> 02:45:09,590
now it's not necessary actions are

3493
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:13,790
happening in our society today it feels

3494
02:45:18,970 --> 02:45:17,690
weird to have the death penalty but when

3495
02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:18,980
you go back and look at some of these

3496
02:45:28,360 --> 02:45:24,050
specific cases like kenneth williams man

3497
02:45:31,480 --> 02:45:28,370
it just it feels strange but there you

3498
02:45:35,560 --> 02:45:31,490
go he literally escaped from prison

3499
02:45:37,450 --> 02:45:35,570
killed a Cecil Boren at his home just a

3500
02:45:40,450 --> 02:45:37,460
couple of miles away from the prison now

3501
02:45:44,890 --> 02:45:40,460
he's back and tonight he was executed at

3502
02:45:46,600 --> 02:45:44,900
that very same prison there you go there

3503
02:45:49,270 --> 02:45:46,610
were questions about whether this was

3504
02:45:52,290 --> 02:45:49,280
actually going to happen and it was time

3505
02:45:55,960 --> 02:45:52,300
to go off during the show tonight and

3506
02:46:00,190 --> 02:45:55,970
there you go it actually happened Google

3507
02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:00,200
Maps Google Maps already let you know

3508
02:46:07,180 --> 02:46:04,490
when parking at your destination might

3509
02:46:10,450 --> 02:46:07,190
be difficult but the apps latest

3510
02:46:13,540 --> 02:46:10,460
navigation feature aims to make things

3511
02:46:14,850 --> 02:46:13,550
even easier even after you arrived now

3512
02:46:17,950 --> 02:46:14,860
check this out

3513
02:46:21,341 --> 02:46:17,960
the helpful parking location features

3514
02:46:23,830 --> 02:46:21,351
revealed last month have just became

3515
02:46:27,640 --> 02:46:23,840
official meaning Google Maps on Android

3516
02:46:31,210 --> 02:46:27,650
and iOS Apple devices will now remember

3517
02:46:34,421 --> 02:46:31,220
where you are parked where your car is

3518
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:34,431
once you reach your destination and on

3519
02:46:40,900 --> 02:46:37,760
Apple iPhones because I've got one now

3520
02:46:41,801 --> 02:46:40,910
there it is it's even literally a

3521
02:46:45,910 --> 02:46:41,811
no-brainer

3522
02:46:48,820 --> 02:46:45,920
on Apple iOS on Android users simply

3523
02:46:50,950 --> 02:46:48,830
need to tap the blue dot once they park

3524
02:46:53,740 --> 02:46:50,960
the car and hit save your parking to

3525
02:46:56,140 --> 02:46:53,750
drop a pin right there where you apart

3526
02:46:57,970 --> 02:46:56,150
in Google Maps tapping the pin label

3527
02:47:00,671 --> 02:46:57,980
brings up another card where you can set

3528
02:47:03,309 --> 02:47:00,681
a reminder to pay the parking meter snap

3529
02:47:05,199 --> 02:47:03,319
a picture where your car is parked share

3530
02:47:07,659 --> 02:47:05,209
your car's location or you know pretty

3531
02:47:11,229 --> 02:47:07,669
much just jot down some parking notes

3532
02:47:12,909 --> 02:47:11,239
but users for Apple well you've got a

3533
02:47:14,859 --> 02:47:12,919
similar experience but you don't

3534
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:14,869
actually have to remember to drop the

3535
02:47:21,130 --> 02:47:19,010
pin first trip on this your if your if

3536
02:47:25,090 --> 02:47:21,140
your phone is connected to the car via

3537
02:47:27,969 --> 02:47:25,100
bluetooth or USB Google Maps takes

3538
02:47:30,849 --> 02:47:27,979
advantage of the feature built for Apple

3539
02:47:33,819 --> 02:47:30,859
that automatically tags your car's

3540
02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:33,829
location once your phone disconnects

3541
02:47:39,489 --> 02:47:36,770
from the vehicle now how frightening is

3542
02:47:41,109 --> 02:47:39,499
that now this isn't for the people that

3543
02:47:45,479 --> 02:47:41,119
just can't remember where your car is

3544
02:47:48,340 --> 02:47:45,489
part I'm talking about your location is

3545
02:47:50,019 --> 02:47:48,350
automatically updated the second you

3546
02:47:52,449 --> 02:47:50,029
turn off your car and the Bluetooth is

3547
02:47:56,590 --> 02:47:52,459
disconnected is that getting to a

3548
02:47:57,909 --> 02:47:56,600
frightening level of surveillance you

3549
02:47:59,769 --> 02:47:57,919
know this isn't for the person that

3550
02:48:01,840 --> 02:47:59,779
isn't smart enough to remember where

3551
02:48:03,460 --> 02:48:01,850
their car is parked that's not what I'm

3552
02:48:05,529 --> 02:48:03,470
talking about there are certainly a

3553
02:48:09,369 --> 02:48:05,539
number of those out there and I could be

3554
02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:09,379
one of them but having your destination

3555
02:48:15,699 --> 02:48:13,359
BAM locked in you turn off the car

3556
02:48:18,599 --> 02:48:15,709
disconnect your Bluetooth unplug your

3557
02:48:22,719 --> 02:48:18,609
USB you're marked

3558
02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:22,729
you are marked they know exactly where

3559
02:48:28,179 --> 02:48:24,850
you parked

3560
02:48:31,389 --> 02:48:28,189
isn't that frightening now I'm not

3561
02:48:33,849 --> 02:48:31,399
saying that this isn't useful I remember

3562
02:48:40,540 --> 02:48:33,859
I'll tell you a little story go to a

3563
02:48:44,380 --> 02:48:40,550
Laker game and this is 1994 go to a

3564
02:48:47,019 --> 02:48:44,390
Laker game and and I go out there with a

3565
02:48:52,569 --> 02:48:47,029
friend of mine and he had just bought a

3566
02:48:55,119 --> 02:48:52,579
new SUV he bought it like that day or

3567
02:48:58,000 --> 02:48:55,129
the day before and so we take it down

3568
02:49:00,909 --> 02:48:58,010
this to the forum not to staple Center

3569
02:49:04,719 --> 02:49:00,919
wasn't even built yet I'm to go to the

3570
02:49:08,260 --> 02:49:04,729
Laker game and when we are done we walk

3571
02:49:10,929 --> 02:49:08,270
out of the forum with the forum parking

3572
02:49:13,359 --> 02:49:10,939
lots massive and we walked to the

3573
02:49:16,119 --> 02:49:13,369
section where his car was mm-hmm

3574
02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:16,129
and we're looking and it's gone or

3575
02:49:19,930 --> 02:49:17,450
walking up and down the

3576
02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:19,940
miles and Mike ban and we switched to

3577
02:49:24,580 --> 02:49:21,530
the next section of the parking lot

3578
02:49:28,390 --> 02:49:24,590
we're looking can't find this brand-new

3579
02:49:31,150 --> 02:49:28,400
SUV brand-new brand-new which had big

3580
02:49:32,650 --> 02:49:31,160
tires on it and it was you know as it

3581
02:49:37,030 --> 02:49:32,660
was an obvious thing and we can't find

3582
02:49:40,210 --> 02:49:37,040
it we ended up walking around the forum

3583
02:49:44,140 --> 02:49:40,220
which took you know to go circuit could

3584
02:49:46,870 --> 02:49:44,150
not find it and we go up we find the

3585
02:49:50,350 --> 02:49:46,880
LAPD and we walk up to them and tell

3586
02:49:52,390 --> 02:49:50,360
them that his car has been stolen so

3587
02:49:54,790 --> 02:49:52,400
we're going through the process of all

3588
02:49:57,460 --> 02:49:54,800
of this and what kind of car was and his

3589
02:50:02,370 --> 02:49:57,470
ID and we're going through all of this

3590
02:50:05,950 --> 02:50:02,380
and now it's probably two hours later

3591
02:50:07,900 --> 02:50:05,960
that we get all of this done and we're

3592
02:50:12,540 --> 02:50:07,910
bummed out and we're walking around the

3593
02:50:15,160 --> 02:50:12,550
forum and I think at that point we were

3594
02:50:18,190 --> 02:50:15,170
had resolved to either calling friends

3595
02:50:21,450 --> 02:50:18,200
are calling for a cab and we look out

3596
02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:21,460
all the cars have now left the forum

3597
02:50:28,750 --> 02:50:25,250
there's is as you be sitting in the

3598
02:50:32,140 --> 02:50:28,760
parking lot all by itself forgot where

3599
02:50:35,350 --> 02:50:32,150
he parked the car it really happens I

3600
02:50:37,511 --> 02:50:35,360
got to admit I had forgotten myself now

3601
02:50:39,580 --> 02:50:37,521
we have to we go we get in the car we go

3602
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:39,590
back we find the police we tell them the

3603
02:50:44,410 --> 02:50:42,110
car's not stolen here we are we drove

3604
02:50:46,990 --> 02:50:44,420
home and now I'm telling you about a

3605
02:50:49,720 --> 02:50:47,000
real-world experience where we forgot

3606
02:50:52,660 --> 02:50:49,730
where we parked the car and thought we

3607
02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:52,670
had looked everywhere for it reported

3608
02:51:00,131 --> 02:50:55,250
the car stolen turns out it was there

3609
02:51:03,881 --> 02:51:00,141
now in that application in the parking

3610
02:51:07,210 --> 02:51:03,891
lot of the form or another you know huge

3611
02:51:10,330 --> 02:51:07,220
point I get that I get it that's where

3612
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:10,340
you would use this but you just don't

3613
02:51:17,290 --> 02:51:13,760
want to have this automatic and having

3614
02:51:20,921 --> 02:51:17,300
it just stored it it feels creepy to me

3615
02:51:26,820 --> 02:51:20,931
it just doesn't feel right you get it

3616
02:51:31,270 --> 02:51:29,980
it will take the military to stop North

3617
02:51:34,120 --> 02:51:31,280
Korea's nuclear weapon

3618
02:51:36,400 --> 02:51:34,130
program a majority of voters now believe

3619
02:51:38,890 --> 02:51:36,410
now listen to what I'm about to say to

3620
02:51:43,570 --> 02:51:38,900
you and they tend to favor the United

3621
02:51:47,430 --> 02:51:43,580
States taking that action now that's

3622
02:51:51,940 --> 02:51:47,440
according to the latest national Fox

3623
02:51:55,330 --> 02:51:51,950
News poll of registered voters I have

3624
02:51:59,470 --> 02:51:55,340
said after this last last election cycle

3625
02:52:03,370 --> 02:51:59,480
I will never read another poll that the

3626
02:52:07,091 --> 02:52:03,380
polls lie they just absolutely an N out

3627
02:52:10,600 --> 02:52:07,101
of everybody posting a poll it's Fox

3628
02:52:15,131 --> 02:52:10,610
News who came up against all of this

3629
02:52:18,820 --> 02:52:15,141
polling and and discounted poll results

3630
02:52:20,290 --> 02:52:18,830
right so here we have this that it's

3631
02:52:24,280 --> 02:52:20,300
going to take military forces out

3632
02:52:25,961 --> 02:52:24,290
nuclear weapons in North Korea and it's

3633
02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:25,971
going to take military action from the

3634
02:52:33,400 --> 02:52:29,120
United States and Fox decided to publish

3635
02:52:35,830 --> 02:52:33,410
this information so here I want a step

3636
02:52:41,850 --> 02:52:35,840
further this is everything in this Fox

3637
02:52:44,740 --> 02:52:41,860
News poll about this listen to this 51%

3638
02:52:47,410 --> 02:52:44,750
said that US military action will be

3639
02:52:49,501 --> 02:52:47,420
required to keep the rogue nation from

3640
02:52:55,540 --> 02:52:49,511
continuing its nuclear weapons program

3641
02:53:00,100 --> 02:52:55,550
while 36% think diplomacy alone can stop

3642
02:53:03,580 --> 02:53:00,110
it but the poll goes further by a 53 to

3643
02:53:06,370 --> 02:53:03,590
39 percent margin voters favor the

3644
02:53:09,631 --> 02:53:06,380
United States military using force to

3645
02:53:14,770 --> 02:53:09,641
keep North Korea from making further

3646
02:53:16,810 --> 02:53:14,780
advancements on nukes now North Korea is

3647
02:53:19,001 --> 02:53:16,820
seen as the greatest immediate threat to

3648
02:53:24,190 --> 02:53:19,011
the United States according to this poll

3649
02:53:28,120 --> 02:53:24,200
some 38% feel that way while 25% think

3650
02:53:31,330 --> 02:53:28,130
are you ready that Isis is the biggest

3651
02:53:36,190 --> 02:53:31,340
threat and then the poll goes further to

3652
02:53:40,690 --> 02:53:36,200
say that 18 percent Russia is the

3653
02:53:44,960 --> 02:53:40,700
biggest threat meanwhile 42 percent of

3654
02:53:49,410 --> 02:53:44,970
voters oppose the Iran nuclear agreement

3655
02:53:52,740 --> 02:53:49,420
35% support it and 23% are unable to

3656
02:53:54,810 --> 02:53:52,750
give an opinion the agreement eases the

3657
02:53:56,940 --> 02:53:54,820
United States sanctions for 10 years in

3658
02:53:58,830 --> 02:53:56,950
exchange for Iran stopping its nuclear

3659
02:54:01,350 --> 02:53:58,840
program over that time period in

3660
02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:01,360
September 2015 when the deal was first

3661
02:54:10,910 --> 02:54:07,450
made 56 percent opposed it now this is

3662
02:54:14,820 --> 02:54:10,920
where it gets whack the Fox News poll

3663
02:54:17,460 --> 02:54:14,830
was alarming as these numbers are and as

3664
02:54:19,679 --> 02:54:17,470
frightening of thoughts are that I've

3665
02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:19,689
just projected on to you that this is

3666
02:54:25,830 --> 02:54:22,210
the feeling of the nation this is where

3667
02:54:29,540 --> 02:54:25,840
it goes south the Fox News poll is based

3668
02:54:33,060 --> 02:54:29,550
on landline and cell phone interviews

3669
02:54:37,530 --> 02:54:33,070
with one thousand and nine randomly

3670
02:54:39,990 --> 02:54:37,540
chosen registered voters nationwide it's

3671
02:54:42,540 --> 02:54:40,000
only a thousand people it's a thousand

3672
02:54:45,510 --> 02:54:42,550
and nine they want to claim it's random

3673
02:54:46,530 --> 02:54:45,520
and in that it's nationwide not buying

3674
02:54:48,600 --> 02:54:46,540
in any of that

3675
02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:48,610
and I'm not buying into poll numbers and

3676
02:54:55,910 --> 02:54:52,530
and as far as I know as far as I know

3677
02:55:01,740 --> 02:54:55,920
the craziest people that I know the

3678
02:55:03,630 --> 02:55:01,750
farthest right-wing or let me nobody

3679
02:55:06,330 --> 02:55:03,640
wants to see a military intervention on

3680
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:06,340
this right now that it's just crazy that

3681
02:55:13,140 --> 02:55:09,010
they would publish this and put polls

3682
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:13,150
out there again man man man and with

3683
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:15,010
that I'm going to leave you with this a

3684
02:55:19,320 --> 02:55:16,960
British teenager has been jailed for

3685
02:55:22,350 --> 02:55:19,330
masterminding a cyber hacking business I

3686
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:22,360
carried out more than 1.7 million

3687
02:55:29,370 --> 02:55:25,439
attacks on websites including Sony and

3688
02:55:33,240 --> 02:55:29,380
Microsoft wreaking havoc worldwide his

3689
02:55:36,179 --> 02:55:33,250
name Adam Mudd he was 16 years old when

3690
02:55:39,000 --> 02:55:36,189
he created the titanium stressor malware

3691
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:39,010
program which lets users crash websites

3692
02:55:43,530 --> 02:55:41,110
and computers by flooding them with data

3693
02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:43,540
you know DDoS attacks the attacks were

3694
02:55:50,120 --> 02:55:47,530
carried out against more than 650,000

3695
02:55:54,480 --> 02:55:50,130
websites including websites like

3696
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:54,490
Minecraft Xbox Live teamspeak a chat

3697
02:55:58,560 --> 02:55:57,520
tool for gamers right mud now 20 years

3698
02:56:00,301 --> 02:55:58,570
old

3699
02:56:03,421 --> 02:56:00,311
velop the distributed denial-of-service

3700
02:56:06,720 --> 02:56:03,431
of software from his bedroom in Kings

3701
02:56:08,700 --> 02:56:06,730
Lane Lee Hertfordshire he earned the

3702
02:56:11,850 --> 02:56:08,710
equivalent of more than four hundred and

3703
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ninety five thousand dollars in dollars

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and bitcoins by selling the program to

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cyber criminals mud using the name the

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mud family online also carried out

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nearly 600 attacks himself against 181

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victims the old one 1 2014 attack on the

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west head forger College where he

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studied was so large it may have hit 70

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nearby schools and universities

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including the University of Cambridge

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and with that that concludes another

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night and another week right here on

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fade to black

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I am your host Jimmy Church what a great

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conversation tonight I got to thank the

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one and only John Rappaport thank you to

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Gregg Housh for coming in tonight and

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talking about Barrett Brown and of

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course Stephen Huff Huff paranormal comm

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betablox executive producers Rita Kumari

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on shows produced by Hill Jay Paul Marty

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Kovar lg3 Rene Jonas Thank You Dennis

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thank you Bob

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announces our Steve harder Jeanne veto a

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mark D Kovar Sadie by Dale webmaster is

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Drew the geek music doug aldrich intro

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space boys space boy music calm theta

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kanna be rebroadcast amyl to copy it or

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use anywhere in the known universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black or the game changer network i'm

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your host jimmy church follow me on

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twitter @ JT radio everybody have a

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great weekend be safe